ray c 2,299 Posted September 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, Reliant Robin said: I think they've worked in terms of cutting out clashes between the two leagues which is what they were brought in for. Less guests and R/R from my memory this season. Although my memory is questionable! I agree they have worked . don't matter what night we race on we will not get the top riders racing over here only the odd one or two Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,610 Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Baldyman said: What's a non standard speedway fan? The rare ones who understand that Fans wanted fixed race nights or know that are other sports that get points for losing Edited September 5, 2019 by orion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 4,962 Posted September 5, 2019 I think FRN has worked... They're just on the wrong nights Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midland Red 2,383 Posted September 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, orion said: The rare ones who understand that Fans wanted fixed race nights or know that are other sports that get points for losing Those would be the fans who find it difficult or impossible to attend on a Monday or a Thursday, when their regular night was a Friday or Saturday, and they and their kids could attend The fixed nights only really suited fans of teams who always used to race on a Monday or a Thursday - and of course those teams didn’t ride on both nights, so even then some (say) Thursday regulars would be missing on the Monday, and vice versa 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,610 Posted September 5, 2019 1 minute ago, iainb said: I think FRN has worked... They're just on the wrong nights What nights would you have gone for ? knowing that the top league can't used weekends 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,610 Posted September 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Midland Red said: Those would be the fans who find it difficult or impossible to attend on a Monday or a Thursday, when their regular night was a Friday or Saturday, and they and their kids could attend The fixed nights only really suited fans of teams who always used to race on a Monday or a Thursday - and of course those teams didn’t ride on both nights, so even then some (say) Thursday regulars would be missing on the Monday, and vice versa No points having fixed race nights if riders are going to be missing on the nights you go on about that was the whole idea .. Friday and Sat have little affect on crowds anymore the stats show you that . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ray c 2,299 Posted September 5, 2019 20 minutes ago, iainb said: I think FRN has worked... They're just on the wrong nights we cant use tues weds or fri that leaves Monday and Thursday Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted September 5, 2019 4 hours ago, iainb said: So again... In which sport other than Speedway do the away team get more league points for a draw than the home team? ... Apology accepted In which other sports do home teams enjoy the type of home advantage that speedway teams do? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RS50 359 Posted September 5, 2019 4 hours ago, BWitcher said: Agreed to an extent, but then rugby has similar rules to speedway Really. In rugby you can deliberately put your opponent on the floor. Not sure too many referees would allow this in speedway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon1983 557 Posted September 5, 2019 The biggest issue is the lack of riders available.... If you look at my suggestion of having a Super League of 12 clubs with a commonwealth reserve at no.7 all season To fill the 6 places without the no.7 would be 12 x 6 = 72 riders I've just about managed to name 72 exactly on the list below..... Aarnio Allen Andersen H Andersen K Auty Ayres Bacon Barker Batchelor Bates Becker Bellego Berge Bewley Bjerre K Bjerre L Clegg Cook Covatti Doolan Douglas Doyle Ellis Etheridge Fricke Gappmaier Garrity Grajczonek Harris Heeps Holder C Holder J Howarth Iversen Jakobsen Jensen R Jonasson Jorgensen Kennett Kerr King Klindt Kurtz B Kurtz T Lambert R Lawson Lidsey Masters Morris N Musielak Newman Nicholls Ostergaard Palm Toft Palovaara Pickering Pieszcezek Porsing Proctor Riss E Schlein Stewart Summers Thorsell Tungate Vissing Wells Wethers Wilson-Deab Worral R Worral S Wright Then I have said name 16 no.7's and clubs can pick one each and 4 would be left as "reserves" to cover injury etc. and obviously ride in the NL I have managed to come up with 18 names Sarjeant Perks Wajtknecht Shanes Nielsen Morris A Flint Hume Wood Bowtell Bickley Mountain Thomas Greaves Smith Kennedy Kemp Rowe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 4,962 Posted September 5, 2019 56 minutes ago, orion said: What nights would you have gone for ? knowing that the top league can't used weekends Ahh... Well this is where I would have broken away from the other countries. We're currently rock bottom and something drastic needed/needs doing. I would have gone for Friday and Saturday night 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 4,962 Posted September 5, 2019 18 minutes ago, DC2 said: In which other sports do home teams enjoy the type of home advantage that speedway teams do? I don't know, that's not my point. My point is a draw is a draw... Except in Speedway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midland Red 2,383 Posted September 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said: The biggest issue is the lack of riders available.... If you look at my suggestion of having a Super League of 12 clubs with a commonwealth reserve at no.7 all season To fill the 6 places without the no.7 would be 12 x 6 = 72 riders I've just about managed to name 72 exactly on the list below..... Aarnio Allen Andersen H Andersen K Auty Ayres Bacon Barker Batchelor Bates Becker Bellego Berge Bewley Bjerre K Bjerre L Clegg Cook Covatti Doolan Douglas Doyle Ellis Etheridge Fricke Gappmaier Garrity Grajczonek Harris Heeps Holder C Holder J Howarth Iversen Jakobsen Jensen R Jonasson Jorgensen Kennett Kerr King Klindt Kurtz B Kurtz T Lambert R Lawson Lidsey Masters Morris N Musielak Newman Nicholls Ostergaard Palm Toft Palovaara Pickering Pieszcezek Porsing Proctor Riss E Schlein Stewart Summers Thorsell Tungate Vissing Wells Wethers Wilson-Deab Worral R Worral S Wright Then I have said name 16 no.7's and clubs can pick one each and 4 would be left as "reserves" to cover injury etc. and obviously ride in the NL I have managed to come up with 18 names Sarjeant Perks Wajtknecht Shanes Nielsen Morris A Flint Hume Wood Bowtell Bickley Mountain Thomas Greaves Smith Kennedy Kemp Rowe Interesting list - well done How many of those couldn’t race in the UK on a Friday and Saturday night? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted September 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, iainb said: I don't know, that's not my point. My point is a draw is a draw... Except in Speedway Or other sports as has already been pointed out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted September 5, 2019 The basic mentality of your average speedway fan is summed up on this thread. We want the old bonus pt system back. Why? Because it kept meetings interesting. So they advocate scrapping a system that keeps meetings more interesting than than the old 'bonus pt' system ever did. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
