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And so I stagger manfully towards the final season in my results gathering project.

First of all I need to confirm Northern League results between Birmingham and Norwich as I have a race point kicking somewhere:

08/06 Birmingham 43 - 41 Norwich and 17/08 Birmingham 28 - 55 Norwich

15/06 Norwich 58 -26 Birmingham and 20/07 Norwich 52 - 31 Birmingham

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The Stenner's Annual shows the result on 20th July as Norwich 52 Birmingham 32, with Wright scoring 1 not 0 for Birmingham.  This is impossible as the missing point in the meeting occurred when both Norwich riders failed to score in heat 8.  Information from Birmingham and Norwich programmes confirms the result was 52-31.  The other three results are correct.  Peter Morrish's book 'British Speedway Leagues 1946-1964' also shows the result as 52-32, but perhaps the information was taken from Stenner's Annual.

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I have been referencing the tables as published on the SGB website so I assume they have been taken from the same source. Thanks for clearing that up.

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Next batch in date order:

29/04 Wimbledon v Wembley (Challenge) rained off - CONFIRM DATE

15/06 Birmingham Northern League Riders Invitational - tie between Tommy Allott & Jeff Lloyd - OUTRIGHT WINNER?

27/06 Middlesbrough Best Pairs - 3-way tie between F. Hodgson & W. Plant, G. Garland & J. Crowther and K. Curtis & J. Gordan - OUTRIGHT WINNER?

29/06 Belle Vue 100 Guineas Trophy QR - tie between Jack and Norman Parker - OUTRIGHT WINNER?

10/08 Birmingham v Middlesbrough (Northern League) rained off - CONFIRM DATE

12/08 Wimbledon British Riders Championship QR - tie between Ron Johnson & Eric Langton - OUTRIGHT WINNER?

13/08 West Ham British Riders Championship QR - tie between Bill Longley, Bill Kitchen & Malcolm Craven - OUTRIGHT WINNER?

15/08 Middlesbrough British Riders Championship QR - tie between Bert Spencer & Paddy Mills - OUTRIGHT WINNER?

17/08 Odsal British Riders Championship QR - tie between Alec Statham & Malcolm Craven - OUTRIGHT WINNER?

10/10 Sheffield Best Pairs - winners E. Langton & D. Oliver - CONFIRM DATE & RESULT

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2 hours ago, daveallan81 said:

Next batch in date order:

29/04 Wimbledon v Wembley (Challenge) rained off - CONFIRM DATE  Confirmed  Wimbledon & New Cross v Wembley (programme)

15/06 Birmingham Northern League Riders Invitational - tie between Tommy Allott & Jeff Lloyd - OUTRIGHT WINNER?  No decider recorded in a programme, or in a local newspaper report

27/06 Middlesbrough Best Pairs - 3-way tie between F. Hodgson & W. Plant, G. Garland & J. Crowther and K. Curtis & J. Gordan - OUTRIGHT WINNER?  The Stenner’s Annual shows Hodgson & Plant as the winners with 18, from Curtis & Gordon 17 and Crowther & Curtis 16

29/06 Belle Vue 100 Guineas Trophy QR - tie between Jack and Norman Parker - OUTRIGHT WINNER? This was a qualifying round and there was no decider to determine first place (Speedway News)


10/08 Birmingham v Middlesbrough (Northern League) rained off - CONFIRM DATE   A mid-afternoon inspection resulted in the meeting being rained off, with the track flooded and rain still falling (Birmingham Daily Gazette)

12/08 Wimbledon British Riders Championship QR - tie between Ron Johnson & Eric Langton - OUTRIGHT WINNER?  Tie for first place according to programme and The Daily Herald newspaper

13/08 West Ham British Riders Championship QR - tie between Bill Longley, Bill Kitchen & Malcolm Craven - OUTRIGHT WINNER? Craven won a three-rider run-off for first place (Daily Herald)
 

17/08 Odsal British Riders Championship QR - tie between Alec Statham & Malcolm Craven - OUTRIGHT WINNER?  Alec Statham is recorded as the winner in a subsequent Odsal programme and The Yorkshire Post and Leeds Intelligencer newspaper reported that Statham beat Craven in a run-off


10/10 Sheffield Best Pairs - winners E. Langton & D. Oliver - CONFIRM DATE & RESULT Confirmed, Langton & Oliver 17, Crowther & Mason 14, J Parker & Littlewood 13

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Super work as always, thanks.

Now a bundle of non-league in track order:

BELL END

19/05 Date only - ANYTHING TAKE PLACE?

25/08 Best Pairs - CONFIRM DATE & WINNERS

22/09 v Peterborough - CONFIRM DATE & RESULT

EASTBOURNE

28/07 Scratch Races, 11/08 Silver Helmet and 25/08 Scratch Races - CONFIRM DATES & WINNERS

PETERBOROUGH

10/06 Birmingham v Middlesbrough and 07/09 v Midlands - CONFIRM DATES & RESULTS

RYE HOUSE

21/04, 12/05, 26/05 and 13/10 - Dates only - ANYTHING TAKE PLACE?

09/06 Victory Cup - CONFIRM DATE & WINNER

04/08 v Royton - CONFIRM DATE & RESULT

25/08 Supporters Trophy, - CONFIRM DATE & WINNER

01/09 Arthur Sweby's Team v D.(?) Gray's Team - CONFIRM DATE & RESULT

29/09 v Chalfonts - CONFIRM DATE & RESULT

WISBECH

18/08 v Middlesbrough - CONFIRM DATE & RESULT

08/09 v Peterborough 51-32 - CONFIRM DATE & RESULT

29/09 Date only - ANYTHING TAKE PLACE?

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55 minutes ago, daveallan81 said:

Now a bundle of non-league in track order:

BELL END

19/05 Date only - ANYTHING TAKE PLACE?

25/08 Best Pairs - CONFIRM DATE & WINNERS

RYE HOUSE

09/06 Victory Cup - CONFIRM DATE & WINNER

BELL END

19/05 Date only - ANYTHING TAKE PLACE? Commemoration Trophy; Bill Kitchen 15, Wilf Jay 13, Tiger Hart 11 (programme)

25/08 Best Pairs - CONFIRM DATE & WINNERS  Date confirmed; Norman Parker (12) & Harry Caunt (3) 15, Geoff Godwin (9) & Don Houghton (5) 14, Tiger Hart (6) & Paddy Hammond (7) 13 (programme)

RYE HOUSE 

09/06 Victory Cup - CONFIRM DATE & WINNER  Date confirmed, winner Les Trim, according to '70 Years of Rye House Speedway' by Norman Jacobs

 

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2 minutes ago, BL65 said:

 

 


RYE HOUSE 

09/06 Victory Cup - CONFIRM DATE & WINNER  Date confirmed, winner Les Trim, according to '70 Years of Rye House Speedway' by Norman Jacobs

 

Yes, I have the programme. Les Trim won; 2nd C Anderson; 3rd A V Sweby

I also have an unfilled programme for 01/09 A V Sweby's Team v. D Gray's Team, so can't confirm it actually took place.

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Just now, norbold said:

Yes, I have the programme. Les Trim won; 2nd C Anderson; 3rd A V Sweby

I also have an unfilled programme for 01/09 A V Sweby's Team v. D Gray's Team, so can't confirm it actually took place.

Do you know Gray's forename?

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18 hours ago, daveallan81 said:

Do you know Gray's forename?

Dennis

 

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Blimey Dave -you are doing a great service to the Speedway community-thanx again. Cheers

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13 hours ago, racers and royals said:

Does anyone know if Arthur Sweby was related to Colin Sweby( father perhaps ?)

Father and rather like Colin very tall for a rider. Doyens in the world of grasstrack racing and nice to know.

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