racers and royals 8,717 Posted March 18, 2020 21 minutes ago, pitstop84 said: The bell vue track is the same as torun it's the same dimensions that's why it rides as good as torun, just ask the riders who have raced on both. Rubbish on both counts !!! Racing at Belle Vue is far better than at Torun. Torun 325 M Straights 12 M Bends 18 Belle Vue 347 M straights 13 bends 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crabba59 156 Posted March 18, 2020 It was Chris Morton who said they had taken the sizes from torun and was going to do the same at bell vue that's why I said it. And the racing can be as good at torun as bell vue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speedtiger 327 Posted March 18, 2020 52 minutes ago, pitstop84 said: The bell vue track is the same as torun it's the same dimensions that's why it rides as good as torun, just ask the riders who have raced on both. I think you may be wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speedtiger 327 Posted March 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, pitstop84 said: It was Chris Morton who said they had taken the sizes from torun and was going to do the same at bell vue that's why I said it. And the racing can be as good at torun as bell vue I think you are wrong again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crabba59 156 Posted March 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, Speedtiger said: I think you are wrong again. Why? In which way Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OveFundinFan 4,137 Posted March 18, 2020 Not going to get into the argument re Sunny v BV and Sheffield BUT Torun looks longer then BV, and for BV to be actually longer straights mmmm BV has been built into pre existing constraints, it could not be any bigger even if they wanted. I thought Mort went to a few tracks renowned for good racing including Torun, the shape, widths, banking angles, etc. But are you sure BV is bibber then Torun? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,717 Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, OveFundinFan said: Not going to get into the argument re Sunny v BV and Sheffield BUT Torun looks longer then BV, and for BV to be actually longer straights mmmm BV has been built into pre existing constraints, it could not be any bigger even if they wanted. I thought Mort went to a few tracks renowned for good racing including Torun, the shape, widths, banking angles, etc. But are you sure BV is bibber then Torun? Figures taken from FIM supplementary regs for both tracks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speedtiger 327 Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, OveFundinFan said: Not going to get into the argument re Sunny v BV and Sheffield BUT Torun looks longer then BV, and for BV to be actually longer straights mmmm BV has been built into pre existing constraints, it could not be any bigger even if they wanted. I thought Mort went to a few tracks renowned for good racing including Torun, the shape, widths, banking angles, etc. But are you sure BV is bibber then Torun? Toruń is about 320m BV is about 350m. I read in SS that Morton and Gordon went all over Europe gettin info on different tracks and had the old Hyde Rd plans to design the best track possible. And they did that BV is world class. EWR ain’t. Glasgow is a far better Championship track than Scunny. Edited March 18, 2020 by Speedtiger 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neb 312 Posted March 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Speedtiger said: I’m not knocking the club I’m merely pointing out how ridiculous Godfrey comments are about EWR being the best racetrack in UK...when by comparison to BV its a dump. It confirms what a prat he is. Just saying. it seems to me there is only one prat here and it sure isn't rob. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillwhitewasmad 1,486 Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, pitstop84 said: The bell vue track is the same as torun it's the same dimensions that's why it rides as good as torun, just ask the riders who have raced on both. In fairness been to both my venue comment was more based on the stadium than the track . Which are both brilliant Edited March 18, 2020 by phillwhitewasmad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speedtiger 327 Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, neb said: it seems to me there is only one prat here and it sure isn't rob. No need to be self-critical nob.! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ringitsneck 348 Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Speedtiger said: Toruń is about 320m BV is about 350m. I read in SS that Morton and Gordon went all over Europe gettin info on different tracks and had the old Hyde Rd plans to design the best track possible. And they did that BV is world class. EWR ain’t. Glasgow is a far better Championship track than Scunny. You were doing well till the Glasgow bit... better stadium , YES, better race track? NO. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speedtiger 327 Posted March 18, 2020 25 minutes ago, Ringitsneck said: You were doing well till the Glasgow bit... better stadium , YES, better race track? NO. Ok but my point is I think Ashfield is still far better than EWR...which probably says more about how poor EWR is than how good Glasgow is! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crabba59 156 Posted March 19, 2020 Just my thought redcar's track can be as good as scunthorpe and Glasgow for racing . And that's not just me saying that a lot of top riders say the same. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speedtiger 327 Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, pitstop84 said: Just my thought redcar's track can be as good as scunthorpe and Glasgow for racing . And that's not just me saying that a lot of top riders say the same. Agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
