flipper11 134 Posted October 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, Islander15 said: Substantiated rumours tonight that Kent will join the top flight. There’s going to be no team s left at this rate Kent NL & Prem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Islander15 1,062 Posted October 20, 2019 15 minutes ago, flipper11 said: Kent NL & Prem. Hope so. Gives meaningful fixtures and allows Len his weekly meetings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,632 Posted October 21, 2019 13 hours ago, flipper11 said: Kent NL & Prem. Why would a wily old campaigner like Len Silver who has had considerable experience in recent years at CL/NL level suddenly decide to go Premiership, with the various restrictions he has with the stadium usage? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flipper11 134 Posted October 21, 2019 27 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Why would a wily old campaigner like Len Silver who has had considerable experience in recent years at CL/NL level suddenly decide to go Premiership, with the various restrictions he has with the stadium usage? Good question. I can make a couple of guesses for you. The expenses of PL v CL are not massively more. There are more southern based teams in PL v CL so maybe more interest from away supporters to travel, of course this may change if Berwick & Sheffield go up as well. Most importantly I think it may give Kent more leverage with the planners to extend the curfew if there is top flight racing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TurnTwo 317 Posted October 21, 2019 40 minutes ago, flipper11 said: Good question. I can make a couple of guesses for you. The expenses of PL v CL are not massively more. There are more southern based teams in PL v CL so maybe more interest from away supporters to travel, of course this may change if Berwick & Sheffield go up as well. Most importantly I think it may give Kent more leverage with the planners to extend the curfew if there is top flight racing. You don’t think CL racing or PL racing is considerably more???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flipper11 134 Posted October 21, 2019 36 minutes ago, TurnTwo said: You don’t think CL racing or PL racing is considerably more???? I said PL verses CL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,632 Posted October 21, 2019 2 hours ago, flipper11 said: I said PL verses CL. So why is Matt Ford suggesting costs in CL are approx 25% less than PL? I know he's had loads of chats with Len in recent months, so who knows? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flipper11 134 Posted October 21, 2019 19 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: So why is Matt Ford suggesting costs in CL are approx 25% less than PL? I know he's had loads of chats with Len in recent months, so who knows? If Matt Ford says costs in CL are around 25% less than PL then they must be. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TurnTwo 317 Posted October 21, 2019 I’d still bet the points money is quite a bit higher in the top league than the middle.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old bob at herne bay 828 Posted October 21, 2019 Surely riders wages are the only variable cost between PL and CL - all the other costs are fixed whatever league you race in ? As for the costs of Kent moving from the NL to the PL, Len will need also 7 riders, or maybe 6 if Drew Kemp rides at number 7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 21, 2019 7 hours ago, flipper11 said: Good question. I can make a couple of guesses for you. The expenses of PL v CL are not massively more. There are more southern based teams in PL v CL so maybe more interest from away supporters to travel, of course this may change if Berwick & Sheffield go up as well. Most importantly I think it may give Kent more leverage with the planners to extend the curfew if there is top flight racing. ...but will local non-speedway followers like it? And they will seek without doubt the backing of their locally ELECTED councillors to support their objections. Sad but a harsh fact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flipper11 134 Posted October 21, 2019 22 minutes ago, gustix said: ...but will local non-speedway followers like it? And they will seek without doubt the backing of their locally ELECTED councillors to support their objections. Sad but a harsh fact. Very true but reading the planning permission Kent have, they can race on a Friday up to 9.10pm or if there is an accident/s they can extend racing to 9.30pm, but, only for Elite/PL racing not NL or CL. I am only guessing, but it is possible Kent may apply for the same permission on a Monday if they are accepted into the PL when the TV cameras are at C Park based on the fact they already have permission to 9.30 on Fridays. I would also guess they would not get permission to extend to 9.30 every Monday for the reasons you pointed out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TurnTwo 317 Posted October 22, 2019 12 hours ago, old bob at herne bay said: Surely riders wages are the only variable cost between PL and CL - all the other costs are fixed whatever league you race in ? As for the costs of Kent moving from the NL to the PL, Len will need also 7 riders, or maybe 6 if Drew Kemp rides at number 7. I think Anders would have a bigger shoe in the door than Drew. I’d actually say that Anders is better than Drew now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sings4Speedway 3,246 Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, TurnTwo said: I think Anders would have a bigger shoe in the door than Drew. I’d actually say that Anders is better than Drew now. I think Anders has plenty of firm offers already and would be very surprised if he isn't provisionally signed somewhere pending the AGM. However i think Rowe is also wise enough to not get stuck at one track whilst Kemp wants away as he has not mastered the Kent circuit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teaboy279 1,038 Posted October 22, 2019 13 hours ago, flipper11 said: Very true but reading the planning permission Kent have, they can race on a Friday up to 9.10pm or if there is an accident/s they can extend racing to 9.30pm, but, only for Elite/PL racing not NL or CL. I am only guessing, but it is possible Kent may apply for the same permission on a Monday if they are accepted into the PL when the TV cameras are at C Park based on the fact they already have permission to 9.30 on Fridays. I would also guess they would not get permission to extend to 9.30 every Monday for the reasons you pointed out. If we ever went up i think that is the sort of deal that will be negotiated. Run normal 6.30 start, with 7.30 start for TV meetings. I imagine once on tv the stadium could very easily get chosen for a gp qualifier and the council may see the benefit of having successful sports teams in its borough. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites