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The handicap idea is decent in theory and if used in the best spirit it could create a few additional areas of interest mid meeting which will always be good. It does suit tracks like IOW far better than it will Mildenhall & Plymouth tough as you need size and passing opportunities for it to become a winner.

What happens if the top averaged rider in the chosen races doesn't fancy it and gets themselves timed out? Does the reserve assume the average and have to take the 15 metres or will the other rider have to drop back if they are higher averaged than the reserve?  

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1 hour ago, Sings4Speedway said:

The handicap idea is decent in theory and if used in the best spirit it could create a few additional areas of interest mid meeting which will always be good. It does suit tracks like IOW far better than it will Mildenhall & Plymouth tough as you need size and passing opportunities for it to become a winner.

What happens if the top averaged rider in the chosen races doesn't fancy it and gets themselves timed out? Does the reserve assume the average and have to take the 15 metres or will the other rider have to drop back if they are higher averaged than the reserve?  

I hope the reserve assumes the average of the rider he’s replacing in the race. Else if you have a superstar reserve then you could purposely do that to bring him in and start him at the tapes. I’d like to think that a heat leader wouldn’t just ‘not fancy it’ seeing as he knows he won’t get paid to stay in the pits but could easily come third and get paid for second. 

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4 hours ago, ProudtobeaBrummie said:

Having looked at Plymouths team .The disparity in riders ability is ridiculous .

That's why using the Elite League "fast track" race format would be ideal for the NL!

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5 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

That's why using the Elite League "fast track" race format would be ideal for the NL!

All that does is skew riders’ averages massively and create a massive problem the next season. Not to mention the boring heat formula. 

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16 hours ago, ProudtobeaBrummie said:

Having looked at Plymouths team .The disparity in riders ability is ridiculous .

In what way?

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6 hours ago, Islander15 said:

All that does is skew riders’ averages massively and create a massive problem the next season. Not to mention the boring heat formula. 

Seems clear from Speedway Star that NDL - National Development League will look a lot different in 2021 with no stand alone Clubs and probably more on model of SDL/MDL/NorthernDL?

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16 hours ago, ProudtobeaBrummie said:

Having looked at Plymouths team .The disparity in riders ability is ridiculous .

Piffle

At Birmingham in 2018 we had Tom Bacon / James Shanes / Danyon Hume with likes of Sheldon Davies and Aaron Butcher. Were you there then???

I don't think anyone of right mind would argue that is a MUCH bigger disparity than anything at Plymouth next season (Bowtell/Stoneman and Atkins nowhere near ability of Bacon/Shanes/Hume) with same 2 reserves who are probably better now than in 2018; in what many argue was the high point of the NL with 5-6 excellent Teams in 2018.

 

 

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26 minutes ago, HGould said:

Piffle

At Birmingham in 2018 we had Tom Bacon / James Shanes / Danyon Hume with likes of Sheldon Davies and Aaron Butcher. Were you there then???

I don't think anyone of right mind would argue that is a MUCH bigger disparity than anything at Plymouth next season (Bowtell/Stoneman and Atkins nowhere near ability of Bacon/Shanes/Hume) with same 2 reserves who are probably better now than in 2018; in what many argue was the high point of the NL with 5-6 excellent Teams in 2018.

 

 

Piffle makes me laugh for some reason, suppose it's more polite than bol***ks.

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41 minutes ago, HGould said:

Seems clear from Speedway Star that NDL - National Development League will look a lot different in 2021 with no stand alone Clubs and probably more on model of SDL/MDL/NorthernDL?

So what happens to the current three standalone clubs? 

We know that Plymouth want to go into the Championship but would Mildenhall and Isle of Wight be able to make the move and if not that would mean the loss of two tracks and being fair that is speedway shoting itself in the foot big time. The sport needs more tracks not fewer. 

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1 minute ago, Chris116 said:

So what happens to the current three standalone clubs? 

We k ow that Plymouth want to go into the Championship but would Mildenhall and Isle of Wight be able to make the move and if not that would mean the loss of two tracks and being fair that is speedway shoting itself in the foot big time. The sport needs more tracks not fewer. 

I think they are working on solutions based on the article but as things stand could lose 3 Clubs I guess?

 

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Reading the article they are looking at possibly spliting the league into a north/south. Guess this will depend on numbers but it says a few teams are interested in a second team.

Hopefully the 3 clubs will not be lost as we need to keep and get more tracks than mothball them.

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3 hours ago, HGould said:

Seems clear from Speedway Star that NDL - National Development League will look a lot different in 2021 with no stand alone Clubs and probably more on model of SDL/MDL/NorthernDL?

Can anyone post the article?

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17 hours ago, Islander15 said:

All that does is skew riders’ averages massively and create a massive problem the next season. Not to mention the boring heat formula. 

How is it a boring heat formulae? Heat leaders meeting heat leaders more often, reserves meeting reserves more often, should lead to closer racing?

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35 minutes ago, szkocjasid said:

How is it a boring heat formulae? Heat leaders meeting heat leaders more often, reserves meeting reserves more often, should lead to closer racing?

That’s the theory but it didn’t work! There was heats where a second string and a reserve from each team rode but the reserve never beat the respective opposition’s second string (too predictable). There was 2 races where the number 1 & 5 riders met the opponent’s 3 & 4, nearly always resulting in a 5-1 to the 1 & 5 team. Imo the worst bit, second strings inevitably got inflated averages by beating reserves (which was predictable) and then all that happened was when the new averages came out they became a heat leader and didn’t score any points anymore (too predictable) and so the guy who was a heat leader originally then became a second string and wiped the floor of the reserves and second strings (too predictable). Then you ended up with a score chart of second strings scoring maximums or near to it, reserves getting big scores simply by doing well in 2 reserve races yet the heat leaders in the side barely scored. How do you explain to others that the ‘worst’ riders legitimately score more than the ‘best’ riders? Oh I hated the heat format haha. 

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