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35 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said:

Disagree completely. There's little/no fat on him! In any case, weight has only a very very very small impact on speed. Ability, racing brain and machinery play a much bigger part.

There was a time when he definitely was overweight, during his Coventry days especially. But certainly not these days

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2 hours ago, Arch Stanton said:

There was a time when he definitely was overweight, during his Coventry days especially. But certainly not these days

Yes true, He isn't exactly Joe Widescreen!

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1 hour ago, foreverblue said:

Yes true, He isn't exactly Joe Widescreen!

Or Martin Doughgard, Graham Stones etc.

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1 hour ago, foreverblue said:

Yes true, He isn't exactly Joe Widescreen!tastles 

Indeed, but Joe Screen was never as good when he came off the pies and cut the tastles of his race suit.

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11 hours ago, acef said:

I think Scott is overweight (for a speedway rider)

He needs a track where he can still get paid and by that I mean a track where technical ability means more than speed, because he isn’t quick enough anymore on the bigger tracks.

Why Wolves didn’t jump on him is beyond me. Put a lot of faith into Nichol and I don’t like that when it’s at the expense of a long serving and well respected British rider.

He's brawny and certainly has more timber these days, compared to the flat-race jockeys like Tungate who can just hang off the bike. If he moved to the USA, Scott Nicholls could go on riding and winning for many a year!

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11 hours ago, acef said:

Why Wolves didn’t jump on him is beyond me. Put a lot of faith into Nichol and I don’t like that when it’s at the expense of a long serving and well respected British rider.

I take it you are equally appalled that Belle Vue are using Lidsey when they could have used Nicholls and a 3 pointer at reserve?

 

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31 minutes ago, stevebrum said:

I take it you are equally appalled that Belle Vue are using Lidsey when they could have used Nicholls and a 3 pointer at reserve?

 

I only have an issue with it based upon the fact that wolves have built 2 points under the limit. They didn’t have to do that. BV did not.

 

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34 minutes ago, stevebrum said:

I take it you are equally appalled that Belle Vue are using Lidsey when they could have used Nicholls and a 3 pointer at reserve?

 

Nicholls isn't great at Belle Vue, he hates it but Monmore suits him, I would think that is the point plus Wolves could have had Nicholls without changing more than one rider in the team.

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1 minute ago, foreverblue said:

Nicholls isn't great at Belle Vue, he hates it but Monmore suits him, I would think that is the point plus Wolves could have had Nicholls without changing more than one rider in the team.

It would have been a straight forward situation. Nichols instead of Broc. They would have been up to the limit that way with a track specialist to boot. 
 

Instead they’ve opted for an untested young rider and gone under the building limit. It makes no sense to me.

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If I remember, Broc had far more than one choice when he was signed by Wolves who looked at a long term plan with him. Bet he wishes he'd gone elsewhere now with some wanting him changed before the season starts. I know it wasn't in the Premiership, but at Eastie last season he looked to be star in the making, certainly on a similar pace to Richard Lawson at our notoriously tricky track from his first visit. As has been said  being 2 points under leaves a possible window for a change or 2 ,but I really would start with him and think you will. (Sorry should be on the Wolves thread really)

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55 minutes ago, acef said:

I only have an issue with it based upon the fact that wolves have built 2 points under the limit. They didn’t have to do that. BV did not.

 

You made the point that a ‘long serving and well respected British rider’ has been left out at the expense of another rider. To be honest that point really is immaterial right now because we don’t even know if Scott has been left out of a top flight place.

The bigger picture is that Belle Vue are investing in Lidsey as a long term prospect. It appears that Wolves are doing the same with Becker and Nicol. In that case there is no difference whatsoever. 

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55 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

Nicholls isn't great at Belle Vue, he hates it but Monmore suits him, I would think that is the point plus Wolves could have had Nicholls without changing more than one rider in the team.

It’s irrelevant. The point being made is that Scott May be out of a top flight team because of clubs signing foreign riders. 

Good on the likes of Belle Vue and Wolves for looking to the future. 

I also hope Scott has a team place in the top flight. He deserves one. 

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2 hours ago, stevebrum said:

I take it you are equally appalled that Belle Vue are using Lidsey when they could have used Nicholls and a 3 pointer at reserve?

 

nicholls can't ride NSS he even admits that himself so why would we sign him on whatever average ???

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52 minutes ago, stevebrum said:

You made the point that a ‘long serving and well respected British rider’ has been left out at the expense of another rider. To be honest that point really is immaterial right now because we don’t even know if Scott has been left out of a top flight place.

The bigger picture is that Belle Vue are investing in Lidsey as a long term prospect. It appears that Wolves are doing the same with Becker and Nicol. In that case there is no difference whatsoever. 

At the end of the day, Wolves are 2 points below the limit. No other team have done that.

Had you signed Scott, you’d have been up to the limit allowed for team building purposes.

My argument is that nobody else has been in a position to fit him in as it currently stands, all completed teams are up to the points limit.

Perhaps I should have worded the first post a little different.

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4 minutes ago, geoff58 said:

nicholls can't ride NSS he even admits that himself so why would we sign him on whatever average ???

Correct.

Wolves had a Scott Nichols sized spot available.

Whats even more perplexing is that would have been a really good signing (for Wolves) on that average.

Instead they’ve opted for youth and gone in under the limit.

Very odd.

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