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18 hours ago, orion said:

So wrong on so many levels I don't where you start .. you go wrong on the first point you want fans to come back . the simple is that as the level  of rider has dropped and so have the fans .  dropping the standard again is not radical and is not very different its the plan that has not worked .

You are so wrong the points Mike make to me are sound exciting even.The crowds have dropped because people have become disillusioned  nothing to do with the standard of rider they have found other thing's to do in there life to replace speedway.There is one great guy on this forum who is a great example last year i recon he went to about 50/70 meeting's at various tracks in the uk He loves speedway he was an ex rider  but he has only been to 7/8 uk meeting's this year he has replaced the uk with European meeting's.He says the variation is poor poor facilities and generally speedway in the uk is poor value for money entertainment wise nothing to do with the level of rider.

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30 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

It’s all to do with the rider level. 

I’d have agreed with you a few years ago but not today.

Over half of the Premiership riders ride in the Championship.

In the Premiership only Doyle, Lambert, Iversen, Fricke and Batchelor, in my opinion, are ‘elite’ riders, all of the other good riders currently ride in the Championship or have similar averages.

Poole were beaten in the play off semi final by a side comprising mainly of Championship riders.

We have see some terrific racing at Eastbourne this year, my first experience of the Championship League and it hasn’t disappointed.

Your statement effectively says you are only attending to watch the No 1 riders in each team.

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29 minutes ago, woofers said:

I’d have agreed with you a few years ago but not today.

Over half of the Premiership riders ride in the Championship.

In the Premiership only Doyle, Lambert, Iversen, Fricke and Batchelor, in my opinion, are ‘elite’ riders, all of the other good riders currently ride in the Championship or have similar averages.

Poole were beaten in the play off semi final by a side comprising mainly of Championship riders.

We have see some terrific racing at Eastbourne this year, my first experience of the Championship League and it hasn’t disappointed.

Your statement effectively says you are only attending to watch the No 1 riders in each team.

According to Shovlar he wont go Poole to watch lower level racing as he doesnt want to watch wobblers...............well Ipswich had a team of 6 wobblers that beat his Poole team........

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3 minutes ago, Gavan said:

According to Shovlar he wont go Poole to watch lower level racing as he doesnt want to watch wobblers...............well Ipswich had a team of 6 wobblers that beat his Poole team........

Oh did Poole lose to Ipswich? I'd never have guessed - especially on the Poole 2020 thread!!!

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1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said:

It’s all to do with the rider level. 

People seem to think that the top riders would massively improve our league and that most of the riders that still ride here are not that good.

I have just looked at a Nielsen's results since his return and the riders that have beaten him.

Kurtz 6 times.

Holder 5 times.

Klindt 4 times.

Jonnasson and Covatti 2 times.

Doyle

Batchelor

Grajconek

Team mates

King 3 times

Heeps 2 times

Harris

I would love to see a lot of them return but in reality would there return improve the quality of racing that much most of the riders still riding here ride BRITISH  tracks very well and a lot of them would still beat the top riders on a regular basis over here (different story in Poland etc).We all seem to link great racing to riders names but over the season I have seen some awesome racing this year at the NSS so is this really the case would there return improve the racing that much? maybe a little but not as much as it would in peoples minds.

 

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2 hours ago, woofers said:

I’d have agreed with you a few years ago but not today.

Over half of the Premiership riders ride in the Championship.

In the Premiership only Doyle, Lambert, Iversen, Fricke and Batchelor, in my opinion, are ‘elite’ riders, all of the other good riders currently ride in the Championship or have similar averages.

Poole were beaten in the play off semi final by a side comprising mainly of Championship riders.

We have see some terrific racing at Eastbourne this year, my first experience of the Championship League and it hasn’t disappointed.

Your statement effectively says you are only attending to watch the No 1 riders in each team.

Bring back top riders crowds will increase. Heeps, Howarth, Worrall, Morris, Etc etc bring in zero extra fans. 
 

Emil, Woffinden, Zmarzlik, Hancock, etc would bring many through the turnstiles.  Of course large sponsorship required to tempt them over in place of riding in Sweden.

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2 hours ago, Gavan said:

According to Shovlar he wont go Poole to watch lower level racing as he doesnt want to watch wobblers...............well Ipswich had a team of 6 wobblers that beat his Poole team........

Now you’re trolling

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2 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Bring back top riders crowds will increase.

No they won’t - sadly.  Top riders means more costs means higher prices means less crowds!

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26 minutes ago, Steve0 said:

No they won’t - sadly.  Top riders means more costs means higher prices means less crowds!

Yes and £25 to get in those days are long gone 

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3 hours ago, Skidder1 said:

Oh did Poole lose to Ipswich? I'd never have guessed - especially on the Poole 2020 thread!!!

You can't blame him. If you lot had knocked Ippo out then people would be baiting Gav non stop.

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2 hours ago, thecoombdog said:

You can't blame him. If you lot had knocked Ippo out then people would be baiting Gav non stop.

Im sorry i may be annoying certain posters like yourself...............just getting my own back and enjoying it.......

Thing is if as expected Swindon do win he will say told you so.......

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18 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Bring back top riders crowds will increase. Heeps, Howarth, Worrall, Morris, Etc etc bring in zero extra fans. 
 

Emil, Woffinden, Zmarzlik, Hancock, etc would bring many through the turnstiles.  Of course large sponsorship required to tempt them over in place of riding in Sweden.

You are a TROLL, end of and you have not got a clue what you are on about.You supported Swindon originally then swapped ship when it suited you. Now you say you might not bother with Poole if you change league's.?  stay away you are not a fan not really.

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30 minutes ago, Gavan said:

Im sorry i may be annoying certain posters like yourself...............just getting my own back and enjoying it.......

Thing is if as expected Swindon do win he will say told you so.......

It's not annoying me at all!! I wish I could be bothered to trawl through Shovlars posts when our team was announced and quote them cos they would be hilarious now!!!! The 2 teams he laughed at are in the final!

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55 minutes ago, thecoombdog said:

It's not annoying me at all!! I wish I could be bothered to trawl through Shovlars posts when our team was announced and quote them cos they would be hilarious now!!!! The 2 teams he laughed at are in the final!

Pooles season finished the moment they stopped using r/r at 2 and lost Covatti into the main body

If they had operated that against us with Klindt , Josh and Covatti taking r/r rides and Covatti having 6 or 7 rides from reserve they would have won

THJ at reserve with Wells and Covatti at 2 cost them any chance of the league

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