cityrebel 2,960 Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, orion said: Crowds were declined on a yearly basis long before domestic tv was televised . Speedway has always been first from the gate most of the time . But, don't you think that showcasing how bad speedway is to a national audience, does the sport more harm than good. At least get the product right befoe exposing it to the world. It amazes me there are still TV companies prepared to take it on. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,608 Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Crazy robin said: So if it wasn’t an advantage why do the higher team not choose to have the home leg first?. Surely they all can’t be wrong?. Why do think they do ...why is it advantage ? simple question .. the final is a simple one as you can pick up the cup in front of your home fans but from a tactical view I can't any reason or any advantage . Edited October 1, 2019 by orion 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,603 Posted October 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Crazy robin said: So if it wasn’t an advantage why do the higher team not choose to have the home leg first?. Surely they all can’t be wrong?. I doubt there is any difference between chosing first or second leg at home in terms of the chances of winning. Last season there were 38 two legged ties in the cup,shield and play-offs across all divisions. First leg home team won 20 of the 38. What might be at issue is attendances. I suspect (but I am sure there are promoters who would know better) that experience shows that all other things being equal, having the second leg offers a better chance of a big crowd. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,608 Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, arnieg said: I doubt there is any difference between chosing first or second leg at home in terms of the chances of winning. Last season there were 38 two legged ties in the cup,shield and play-offs across all divisions. First leg home team won 20 of the 38. What might be at issue is attendances. I suspect (but I am sure there are promoters who would know better) that experience shows that all other things being equal, having the second leg offers a better chance of a big crowd. Attendances might be the main reason but if you look at that its better to have the first leg first . If you get crushed in the first leg the crowd would be down for the second leg Edited October 1, 2019 by orion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,608 Posted October 1, 2019 3 hours ago, cityrebel said: But, don't you think that showcasing how bad speedway is to a national audience, does the sport more harm than good. At least get the product right befoe exposing it to the world. It amazes me there are still TV companies prepared to take it on. You cant always tell if a match is going to be good or bad ..thou you can help yourself by putting the match on a better track Belle Vue etc .. You have to put the play offs on and you cant help if it's rains just before and during the meeting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,055 Posted October 1, 2019 5 hours ago, Crazy robin said: So if it wasn’t an advantage why do the higher team not choose to have the home leg first?. Surely they all can’t be wrong?. The main advantage of finishing first in the league is to choose opponents, the reason most teams choose to have the home leg second is to celebrate with more of their fans if they win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve0 5,517 Posted October 1, 2019 15 minutes ago, foreverblue said: The main advantage of finishing first in the league is to choose opponents, the reason most teams choose to have the home leg second is to celebrate with more of their fans if they win. And how did that go for you this season? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,055 Posted October 1, 2019 Just now, Steve0 said: And how did that go for you this season? Hoho my sides are bursting! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beowulf 1,512 Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, foreverblue said: The main advantage of finishing first in the league is to choose opponents, the reason most teams choose to have the home leg second is to celebrate with more of their fans if they win. Wolves have never won the title in front of their own fans. This year would be a good time to start ! Swindon, obviously, will have others ideas though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speedy swindon pete 509 Posted October 1, 2019 27 minutes ago, Beowulf said: Wolves have never won the title in front of their own fans. This year would be a good time to start ! Swindon, obviously, will have others ideas though. Neither have Swindon. All to play for. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beowulf 1,512 Posted October 1, 2019 6 hours ago, cityrebel said: But, don't you think that showcasing how bad speedway is to a national audience, does the sport more harm than good. At least get the product right befoe exposing it to the world. It amazes me there are still TV companies prepared to take it on. Surely the logic is that no existing fans will be put off by going, so even 1 new fan is a bonus ? ( And yes I understand the logic of lost regular fans for TV matches) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,055 Posted October 1, 2019 Forecast isn't great Thursday so Swindon may have the second leg after all. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
auntie doris 2,333 Posted October 1, 2019 Yep decent weather tomorrow but rain Thursday, tail end of Lorenzo! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
auntie doris 2,333 Posted October 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Beowulf said: Wolves have never won the title in front of their own fans. This year would be a good time to start ! Swindon, obviously, will have others ideas though. Dont think theyve finished top ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lefty 1,255 Posted October 1, 2019 Could a team that finishes fourth from bottom really win a League Title??? Name that Sport??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites