Phil The Ace 2,853 Posted August 4, 2020 On 8/2/2020 at 5:59 PM, keepturningleft said: Despite the claim of BV to a world class venue - mainly true - the highly visible sight of cars parked around turns 3 and 4 does it give that 'track in a field' look which doesn't do much for the image and status of the place. If not terracing, it desperately needs something to block out those cars. Even advertising boardings would look better. I agree, would save me cleaning my car every tuesday 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GAH 409 Posted August 4, 2020 On 8/1/2020 at 8:04 PM, ch958 said: well i know the sport has no money. What do you think it will add? well how did it get installed ???? someone give it away Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ch958 2,393 Posted August 4, 2020 1 hour ago, geoff58 said: well how did it get installed ???? someone give it away well they've obviously afforded it. My point, which you seemed to have missed, is that this is another thing which is not needed such as 4 valves, laydowns, etc - it is not adding anything to what is a sport which should be looking for savings, not more expense. This is not a dig against BV, who I've always admired. I reiterate my question: what will it add to the customer experience at the speedway? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diamondboy 677 Posted August 4, 2020 On 8/2/2020 at 5:52 PM, Daniel Smith said: Not really as it depends on the system used. Most transponders works from when it passes a certain point, i.e. the start finish. Depending on how you've gated the rider finishing 4th could break the track record. But do those other riders not pass the same point? Genuinely don’t understand how it could be different. Would you be kind enough to explain it to me? No wind up, I’m genuinely puzzled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve0 5,517 Posted August 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, ch958 said: well they've obviously afforded it. My point, which you seemed to have missed, is that this is another thing which is not needed such as 4 valves, laydowns, etc - it is not adding anything to what is a sport which should be looking for savings, not more expense. This is not a dig against BV, who I've always admired. I reiterate my question: what will it add to the customer experience at the speedway? The customer will for the first time be able to believe the times of races - no human reaction time - just accurate timing which has been around in other motor sports for years. Additionally, you shouldn’t get the human error (the ref) when deciding the result of a close finish (or dead heat). Well done to Belle Vue for trying to take a dying sport in the UK forward using technology! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GAH 409 Posted August 4, 2020 39 minutes ago, ch958 said: well they've obviously afforded it. My point, which you seemed to have missed, is that this is another thing which is not needed such as 4 valves, laydowns, etc - it is not adding anything to what is a sport which should be looking for savings, not more expense. This is not a dig against BV, who I've always admired. I reiterate my question: what will it add to the customer experience at the speedway? you can't stand still in life technology moves on and we need this because we want to host a GP anything that improves our chances all good !! no one likes VAR in Soccer but it's here to stay !! hawk eye in tennis & cricket !! you have to move on in life !! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speedtiger 327 Posted August 4, 2020 1 hour ago, ch958 said: well they've obviously afforded it. My point, which you seemed to have missed, is that this is another thing which is not needed such as 4 valves, laydowns, etc - it is not adding anything to what is a sport which should be looking for savings, not more expense. This is not a dig against BV, who I've always admired. I reiterate my question: what will it add to the customer experience at the speedway? Nothing! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,243 Posted August 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Steve0 said: The customer will for the first time be able to believe the times of races - no human reaction time - just accurate timing which has been around in other motor sports for years. Additionally, you shouldn’t get the human error (the ref) when deciding the result of a close finish (or dead heat). Well done to Belle Vue for trying to take a dying sport in the UK forward using technology! And in the Speedway Star, Adrian Smith once again mentions how an independent body running the sport would be a major move forward for it.. Tsk. These people coming into Speedway wanting to drag it out of its self inflicted malaise and modernise it.. I don't know..... Who do they think they are?... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Smith 5,646 Posted August 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Diamondboy said: But do those other riders not pass the same point? Genuinely don’t understand how it could be different. Would you be kind enough to explain it to me? No wind up, I’m genuinely puzzled. Are you asking how 4th could possibly record a faster time than 1st? Simply put, if you gate a second behind the others & finish half a second behind 1st but finish 4th your transponder will record a faster 4 laps than the rider who finishes 1st. It also depends on where on the bike the responder is. Transponders activate buy passing a beam or cable that runs the width of the track so the start timing of the tapes going up is irrelevant. Hence, in speedway transponders can be more inaccurate than a guy with a stop watch. As another example, in formula one, they don't officially record the 1st lap time as it always records the guys at the back as being fastest as they get a better run up to the start finish line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben91 1,743 Posted August 5, 2020 7 hours ago, mikebv said: And in the Speedway Star, Adrian Smith once again mentions how an independent body running the sport would be a major move forward for it.. Tsk. These people coming into Speedway wanting to drag it out of its self inflicted malaise and modernise it.. I don't know..... Who do they think they are?... He’ll soon have that enthusiasm squeezed out of him no doubt... 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil The Ace 2,853 Posted August 5, 2020 10 hours ago, geoff58 said: you can't stand still in life technology moves on and we need this because we want to host a GP anything that improves our chances all good !! no one likes VAR in Soccer but it's here to stay !! hawk eye in tennis & cricket !! you have to move on in life !! FOOTBALL its FOOTBALL 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,243 Posted August 5, 2020 5 hours ago, Ben91 said: He’ll soon have that enthusiasm squeezed out of him no doubt... I am sure it will soon feel like pushing water up a hill.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Jones 2,124 Posted August 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, mikebv said: I am sure it will soon feel like pushing water up a hill.. Indeed , & if he starts making too much noise on the issue he won't be long for this sport I fear. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speedtiger 327 Posted August 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, Dave Jones said: Indeed , & if he starts making too much noise on the issue he won't be long for this sport I fear. Many have been and many have gone....!!! Even a genius innovation like the transponder won’t save him. The green eyed monsters in Rugby will be seething with jealousy at this fantastic BV achievement! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,632 Posted August 5, 2020 7 hours ago, Dave Jones said: Indeed , & if he starts making too much noise on the issue he won't be long for this sport I fear. Bearing in mind the potential League Sponsorship deal is being negotiated by a business contact of Adrian Smith so I think his immediate future within the BSPL is assured. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
