Ghosty 496 Posted September 2, 2021 19 hours ago, gazzac said: Having seen him in his prime, probably time to call it a day, hate for him to have an even worse injury(s) than he had this year. Management maybe a different thing if it materialised , although great riders don't always make great managers think he would be pretty good though. There is no doubt the Jason would make a brilliant team manager/coach but one thing I think he would want would be team training/practice facilities. Someone never giving the credit he deserved by the media for his team managing/rider development skills was Jason's grandfather Neil Street & I would expect Jason to be equally as good!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronScorpion 1,399 Posted September 2, 2021 On 9/1/2021 at 10:36 AM, bigcatdiary said: Bottom line is Cook withheld his services for whatever reason and clearly Ipswich reported that and rightly got a facility. The upshot of that is Riders are then given generally a 7 day suspension or longer depending on circumstances, as the Ipswich press release says his return is subject to SCB approval. A lot of the problem is clubs don’t properly explain riders absences, Pedersen and Palin are missing for the Panthers, nothings been said explaining why, either by Peterborough Plymouth or Scunthorpe. Its doesn’t help but fuel suspicion and rumour on the internet. http://scunthorpe-speedway.com/?p=13307 Jordan Palin Racing #10 (@JordanPalinUK) / Twitter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPEEDY69 1,238 Posted September 2, 2021 12 hours ago, bigcatdiary said: Where have you seen or read that Of your referring to the last bit, just taking what Ipswich said officially that Cook would return tonight subject to BSPL/SCB approval. He rode. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arch Stanton 2,232 Posted September 2, 2021 Pretty shocking by the majority of Ipswich riders this year, bar Danny King. He’s been absolutely fantastic in amongst a pile of pure sh!t. The likes of Jake Allen (the biggest culprit and at the bottom of the pile of dung) will come up smelling of roses though. Now on a very handy average of 4.Something or other, he will no doubt be a trump card for somebody. I hope that somebody isn’t Ipswich though. Let someone else benefit from his low average. If he lines up as a Witch next year, count me out. His efforts this year have been pathetic. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon1983 557 Posted September 3, 2021 9 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: Pretty shocking by the majority of Ipswich riders this year, bar Danny King. He’s been absolutely fantastic in amongst a pile of pure sh!t. The likes of Jake Allen (the biggest culprit and at the bottom of the pile of dung) will come up smelling of roses though. Now on a very handy average of 4.Something or other, he will no doubt be a trump card for somebody. I hope that somebody isn’t Ipswich though. Let someone else benefit from his low average. If he lines up as a Witch next year, count me out. His efforts this year have been pathetic. Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigcatdiary 3,156 Posted September 3, 2021 10 hours ago, SPEEDY69 said: Of your referring to the last bit, just taking what Ipswich said officially that Cook would return tonight subject to BSPL/SCB approval. He rode. Pleased he did, you would have been better served with a guest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Racin Jason 72 1,239 Posted September 3, 2021 10 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: Pretty shocking by the majority of Ipswich riders this year, bar Danny King. He’s been absolutely fantastic in amongst a pile of pure sh!t. The likes of Jake Allen (the biggest culprit and at the bottom of the pile of dung) will come up smelling of roses though. Now on a very handy average of 4.Something or other, he will no doubt be a trump card for somebody. I hope that somebody isn’t Ipswich though. Let someone else benefit from his low average. If he lines up as a Witch next year, count me out. His efforts this year have been pathetic. What will be interesting if he recovers to ride for Redcar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panthers99 432 Posted September 3, 2021 He's down to ride still..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyman 6,243 Posted September 3, 2021 10 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: Pretty shocking by the majority of Ipswich riders this year, bar Danny King. He’s been absolutely fantastic in amongst a pile of pure sh!t. The likes of Jake Allen (the biggest culprit and at the bottom of the pile of dung) will come up smelling of roses though. Now on a very handy average of 4.Something or other, he will no doubt be a trump card for somebody. I hope that somebody isn’t Ipswich though. Let someone else benefit from his low average. If he lines up as a Witch next year, count me out. His efforts this year have been pathetic. That's unlike you to be so scathing,,, it must have really got to you. Anyway, according to Louis in the radio,, there is going to be a complete clear out for next year with only Danny worthy of a place. Let's see how that goes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon1983 557 Posted September 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, Baldyman said: That's unlike you to be so scathing,,, it must have really got to you. Anyway, according to Louis in the radio,, there is going to be a complete clear out for next year with only Danny worthy of a place. Let's see how that goes. A few riders are on keen averages now though, I wouldn't be surprised if 3 or 4 from this year are in next Who is part of the golfing team? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyman 6,243 Posted September 3, 2021 57 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said: A few riders are on keen averages now though, I wouldn't be surprised if 3 or 4 from this year are in next Who is part of the golfing team? And that is the problem,,,, but they are on those averages for a reason,,, and it isn't because they have been good. Personally I would get shot of most of them to. Ipswich don't help themselves by not having an individual to check out the latest young talent from around the world. It seems they are happy ish to just plod along,,if punters still pay. In fact, last nights crowd was very good indeed,,,, Louis is a lucky lad,, 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tellboy 3,653 Posted September 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Racin Jason 72 said: What will be interesting if he recovers to ride for Redcar Why wouldn't he?He felt crap after his covid jab didn't he?When i had mine i felt absolutely awful the day after like i had the proper flu.But then the day after that i was fine. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon1983 557 Posted September 3, 2021 looking at the averages Witches Started with Crump 8.00 Klindt 7.43 King 6.66 Heeps 6.30 Stewart 4.00 Rowe 3.00 Kemp 3.00* Allen came in on a 5.56 to replace Klindt so Witches already lost 1.87 straight off Looking at the numbers from the last declaration Crump 5.54 (a loss of 2.46) Cook 7.23 (a loss of 0.36 having joined on a 7.59) King 7.46 (an increase of 0.80) Allen 4.88 (a loss of 0.68) Starke 4.85 (an increase of 0.58 having joined on a 4.27) Rowe 4.84 (an increase of 1.84 on his accessed average, although he had a season high average of 5.49 so could argue a loss) I think as Chris Louis said last night, the gamble with Crumpy failed, taking the injury aside, would it be any different? I think maybe an averge of 6/6.5 but still a huge drop from a starting average of 8.00, the loss of Klindt was a big loss perhaps the biggest loss of all, then you have 3 riders left 2 of which featured heavily at reserve at one stage and benefited but didn't within the main body of the team, and one rider who was left in the main body of the team who could of benefited from being at reserve for a while. Unfortunately none of us really see what goes on behind the scenes to understand who what when and why If its the same regs next season (probably won't be) i'd like to see the following Danny King Sam Jensen Hans Andersen Jason Crump Nicolai Klindt Jake Allen Anders Rowe R/S or if a drop down to the Championship something like Danny King Adam Ellis Jason Crump these 3 as a heat leader trio maybe a Tom Brennan plus a new foreigner such as Matthew Gilmore or Mads Hansen two from Drew Kemp / Dan Thompson / Jordan Jenkins for the reserve sports Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevin bass 240 Posted September 3, 2021 I think it was spoke about going to two RS next year per team, mind you it'll all change b4 then and probably not for the better either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,685 Posted September 3, 2021 13 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said: looking at the averages Witches Started with Crump 8.00 Klindt 7.43 King 6.66 Heeps 6.30 Stewart 4.00 Rowe 3.00 Kemp 3.00* As much stick as Cam got for his early form (and yes I agree he didn't quite look on it) at the time of his injury he was only 2 race points short of matching his average Post injury he was for a spell quite frankly dire. I think he probably shouldn't have been riding in truth. More recently though he has shown some signs of better form Wouldn't be shocked at all to see him back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites