Gavan 5,049 Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) 1. Holder/Iversen/Zagar 2. Allen 3. Heeps 4. King 5. Klindt 6. Covatti 7. Ayres Wouldnt mind that side although we would still suffer some harsh away defeats Edited December 10, 2019 by Gavan 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JamesB 107 Posted December 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Gavan said: 1. Holder 2. Allen 3. Heeps 4. King 5. Klindt 6. Covatti 7. Ayres If that ends up being the line up then the challenge from Louis to Allen and Heeps has to be 'take King's third heat leader spot away from him'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon1983 557 Posted December 10, 2019 I think if Ipswich really do want to compete.... now I know I have no clue what Pedersen is on at Sheffield but he must be at least on around £3k+ a meeting What I would like to see from the promotion is the Witches to go out and get a Pole, and a top level one at that.... Bartosz isn't going to happen thats for sure, but there might be some kind of possiblity for Dudek or Janowski I say Janowski because he has come here before, and has he not been left out of the Polish national squad for 2020? not sure on his Swedish commitments yet either But lets look at it as not much of a gamble but there are 5,000 poles + living in Ipswich/Felixstowe and 12,000 located in Suffolk... i've met a fair number of these poles (well say about 100) and they are all mainly younger generation who come here and work then go home or come here and settle but send money home etc. I would say out of this 100 there have been about 40 of them who like Speedway, about a dozen who have attended Cardiff or watch speedway live when they go home so if the Witches went and got Janowski in who is a big name Pole, paid £3k per meeting Average out at £18 entry into Foxhall, thats an extra 167 people through the gate to cover that cost, I would imagine you would most likely see an extra 100 or so non-poles if Witches got Janowski and if marketed correctly in the local area and on social media then you would see more of the polish community come to Speedway more frequently and thus covering the cost of the wages to Janowski. For me, I am hoping that something along these lines is seriously being looked at by the club, if GN is willing to add a bit of sponsorship in there too etc. it could work 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GAH 409 Posted December 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said: I think if Ipswich really do want to compete.... now I know I have no clue what Pedersen is on at Sheffield but he must be at least on around £3k+ a meeting What I would like to see from the promotion is the Witches to go out and get a Pole, and a top level one at that.... Bartosz isn't going to happen thats for sure, but there might be some kind of possiblity for Dudek or Janowski I say Janowski because he has come here before, and has he not been left out of the Polish national squad for 2020? not sure on his Swedish commitments yet either But lets look at it as not much of a gamble but there are 5,000 poles + living in Ipswich/Felixstowe and 12,000 located in Suffolk... i've met a fair number of these poles (well say about 100) and they are all mainly younger generation who come here and work then go home or come here and settle but send money home etc. I would say out of this 100 there have been about 40 of them who like Speedway, about a dozen who have attended Cardiff or watch speedway live when they go home so if the Witches went and got Janowski in who is a big name Pole, paid £3k per meeting Average out at £18 entry into Foxhall, thats an extra 167 people through the gate to cover that cost, I would imagine you would most likely see an extra 100 or so non-poles if Witches got Janowski and if marketed correctly in the local area and on social media then you would see more of the polish community come to Speedway more frequently and thus covering the cost of the wages to Janowski. For me, I am hoping that something along these lines is seriously being looked at by the club, if GN is willing to add a bit of sponsorship in there too etc. it could work keep dreaming you will wake up to reality one day Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyman 6,243 Posted December 10, 2019 As soon as you turn up, Barbra Streisand starts playing 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bald Bloke 3,281 Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said: I think if Ipswich really do want to compete.... now I know I have no clue what Pedersen is on at Sheffield but he must be at least on around £3k+ a meeting What I would like to see from the promotion is the Witches to go out and get a Pole, and a top level one at that.... Bartosz isn't going to happen thats for sure, but there might be some kind of possiblity for Dudek or Janowski I say Janowski because he has come here before, and has he not been left out of the Polish national squad for 2020? not sure on his Swedish commitments yet either But lets look at it as not much of a gamble but there are 5,000 poles + living in Ipswich/Felixstowe and 12,000 located in Suffolk... i've met a fair number of these poles (well say about 100) and they are all mainly younger generation who come here and work then go home or come here and settle but send money home etc. I would say out of this 100 there have been about 40 of them who like Speedway, about a dozen who have attended Cardiff or watch speedway live when they go home so if the Witches went and got Janowski in who is a big name Pole, paid £3k per meeting Average out at £18 entry into Foxhall, thats an extra 167 people through the gate to cover that cost, I would imagine you would most likely see an extra 100 or so non-poles if Witches got Janowski and if marketed correctly in the local area and on social media then you would see more of the polish community come to Speedway more frequently and thus covering the cost of the wages to Janowski. For me, I am hoping that something along these lines is seriously being looked at by the club, if GN is willing to add a bit of sponsorship in there too etc. it could work Could be £3k plus flights, van etc. Take off the VAT and you would need at least 400 fans paying full price just to make the £3k. They ride away too, and need paying... Good luck with that one . Edited December 10, 2019 by Bald Bloke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2ndbendbeerhut 1,781 Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Falcon1983 said: I think if Ipswich really do want to compete.... now I know I have no clue what Pedersen is on at Sheffield but he must be at least on around £3k+ a meeting What I would like to see from the promotion is the Witches to go out and get a Pole, and a top level one at that.... Bartosz isn't going to happen thats for sure, but there might be some kind of possiblity for Dudek or Janowksi Who says they havent tried? Zmarlzik, Dudek, Janowksi, Emil, Laguta x2. All based in Poland but why would any of these ride for £3k in this country with all the hassle it brings to them? Same goes for Hancock and Woffinden These SGP stars would want £3k to just get out of bed and turn up... then add in points money etc. I'm led to believe an Ex Ipswich no 1 from the last time the Witches were in the top league was on £3k back then.... A "Top" rider will only return to ride in our league if it suits them... e.g. Nicki Pedersen Iversen , Zager, Lindgren and Lindback are the next hopefuls. And after the SGP boys it's the likes of Jepsen Jensen, Milik, Smolinski and are they really what we are looking for? I hope the allure of the Sponsors money does hook not only a top rider but a top racer afterall it's what we have been used to over the years... maybe Smektala, Kubera or Drabik could be tempted but are they really what we need at no 1 and certainly not what Chris Louis has said he wants.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scoobydoo 2,253 Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) Iversen rumoured to be at Peterborough in 2020 Edited December 10, 2019 by scoobydoo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyman 6,243 Posted December 10, 2019 Well if he does go to Peterborough,,, think that shows the witches have no clout in the top league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arch Stanton 2,241 Posted December 10, 2019 Second signing tomorrow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon1983 557 Posted December 10, 2019 29 minutes ago, Baldyman said: Well if he does go to Peterborough,,, think that shows the witches have no clout in the top league. Or nobody wants Foxhole as a home track baldy lol I only used 3k as a figure as that's the rumoured amount Zagar was on just to show up. Time will soon tell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spiderman1 182 Posted December 10, 2019 Chris holder would be the icing on the cake ,he has to step it up in 2020 if he wants gp dollars ,and the rest will all improve averages holder heeps king allen klindt covatti ayres Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spiderman1 182 Posted December 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said: Or nobody wants Foxhole as a home track baldy lol I only used 3k as a figure as that's the rumoured amount Zagar was on just to show up. Time will soon tell Thought Sarg was 3k for finals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon1983 557 Posted December 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, Spiderman1 said: Chris holder would be the icing on the cake ,he has to step it up in 2020 if he wants gp dollars ,and the rest will all improve averages holder heeps king allen klindt covatti ayres Holder would be good King should improve as last season I saw some woeful home performances Heeps I cant see him increasing, would like to see it but he is one I wouldn't have brought back on his current average Allen should improve Klindt should see a slight increase Covatti I think is the same bracket as heeps, will be strong at 6/7 then when in the main body may struggle Ayres would be good if he just scores his average So 3 or 4 increases among that septet But as ever it is all just opinions Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyman 6,243 Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) Don't see King improving, he has been the same standard for 10 years. Holder wouldn't be number 1 as average lower than Klindt. Would be a reasonable signing,,, but he is clearly no where near the rider he used to be,,, but you would imagine his average would go up a bit. Getting a visa is a different issue, and I would imagine a pretty big hurdle to overcome. Anyone know if Heeps has been training hard and keeping lean? A few hours gating practice wouldn't hurt. What I would say though is, a reserve pairing of say covatti/allen or Allen Nicholls would prob score more points a meeting than Holder and Ayres Edited December 10, 2019 by Baldyman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
