chunky 6,087 Posted October 12, 2019 16 hours ago, gustix said: That is an idea lucifer sam. But I think an item on a forum would also be rejected by Wikipedia. The Defunct Speedway website is not a forum. I can see why comments on a forum would be rejected, but would they do that to a standard website? Would Wikipedia staff go through every website to check for its authenticity and legitimacy? Steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 12, 2019 On 10/10/2019 at 6:08 PM, lucifer sam said: Gustix, any chance you could please arrange to add something to the Harringay page of the Defunct Speedway page (the track he was most synonymous with), which could then be used as a reference? 17 hours ago, gustix said: That is an idea lucifer sam. But I think an item on a forum would also be rejected by Wikipedia. The best idea as mentioned previously in this thread is to wait for the sad news to appear in 'Speedway Star' then pass the item on to Wikipedia for the update. My apologies lucifer sam for describing a website as a forum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucifer sam 3,953 Posted October 12, 2019 4 hours ago, gustix said: My apologies lucifer sam for describing a website as a forum. No problem. It was just an idea that Wikipedia might accept a link to a website such as the Defunct Speedway website. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Split 177 Posted October 12, 2019 I only picked up now that my “namesake” is no longer with us. So sad to hear that Split has died but his name will come up again and again as one of the best riders (or maybe THE best rider?) never to be crowned World Champion. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norbold 7,102 Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) As a postscript to the debate about citing a reference to the date of Split''s death, I have just looked up a number of other deceased speedway riders on Wikipedia. Although all of them give the date of death, not one of them has a citation. Edited October 14, 2019 by norbold Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PotteringAround 633 Posted October 14, 2019 Seeme to be one person calling himself "michig" on Wikipedia who keeps deleting stuff every time someone adds the news of Split Waterman's death. I see Norbold and others have updated the news several times. Each time it's the same idiot who undoes it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, PotteringAround said: Seeme to be one person calling himself "michig" on Wikipedia who keeps deleting stuff every time someone adds the news of Split Waterman's death. I see Norbold and others have updated the news several times. Each time it's the same idiot who undoes it. Is there some way this guy michig and his actions can be queried with Wikipedia? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PotteringAround 633 Posted October 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, gustix said: Is there some way this guy michig and his actions can be queried with Wikipedia? Apart from very, very basic editing, I have no idea how Wikipedia works. Maybe Norbold is more clued up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,940 Posted October 14, 2019 Seems the person prefers to discuss edits on the talk page rather than enter an edit war, although that is basically what is happening here. And that is what is recommended. Comes from Leicester..... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ownership_of_content Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norbold 7,102 Posted October 14, 2019 As far as I understand michig is one of the site's administrators. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,940 Posted October 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, norbold said: As far as I understand michig is one of the site's administrators. Yes and it looks like they want to discuss any edits rather than people just doing them. As it mentions, this is a bit ott, but better to talk than just going round in circles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) As has been previously mentioned the answer is for a BSF member to photocopy the report of the sad death of Split Waterman that will appear in this week's edition of 'Speedway Star'. Then forward that to Wikipedia with a note also detailing the sad loss of Split. Unfortunately I cannot do this - I do not get 'Speedway Star' nor have a scanner to copy the news item. Edited October 14, 2019 by Guest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,087 Posted October 14, 2019 This doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Wikipedia is designed for people to add their own entries and to add their own updates. Obviously, they do have to watch for questionable content, but this straightforward factual information. Again, many of us have updated the site on a number of occasions with no problems whatsoever, but this seems totally ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norbold 7,102 Posted October 14, 2019 1 hour ago, gustix said: As has been previously mentioned the answer is for a BSF member to photocopy the report of the sad death of Split Waterman that will appear in this week's edition of 'Speedway Star'. Then forward that to Wikipedia with a note also detailing the sad loss of Split. Unfortunately I cannot do this - I do not get 'Speedway Star' nor have a scanner to copy the news item. You don't have to scan in anything and send it to them, you just need to cite the date of the Speedway Star it appears in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JOS50 150 Posted October 15, 2019 4 hours ago, chunky said: This doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Wikipedia is designed for people to add their own entries and to add their own updates. Obviously, they do have to watch for questionable content, but this straightforward factual information. Again, many of us have updated the site on a number of occasions with no problems whatsoever, but this seems totally ridiculous. In that case you could inform Wikipedia of the erroneous assertion that California (nr. Wokingham) is a village, it might help to cheer up your pal the doctor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites