Bagpuss 10,779 Posted December 15, 2019 2 hours ago, DC2 said: So you think riders on the way down have no place in a PL winning side? Riders like Eriksen, Zorro, Skornicki, Watt, Stead, Peter Karlsson and Harris, all picked up on false averages due to previous poor seasons and yet being instrumental in winning a title. Hans Andersen or Scott Nicholls would have been miles better for Wolves’ title aspirations for 2020. This is what people don’t get about Lynn signing Proctor. Don’t get me wrong he could be a poor signing but just because he had a bad 2019 doesn’t mean he won’t be a good reserve this coming season. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted December 15, 2019 3 hours ago, acef said: Wolves could have used those extra 2 points on Andersen and Scott. I can guarantee Hans would up that current average of his at Monmore. Easily. I'd argue Scott would as well. Thorsell Andersen Schlein Nicholls Masters Morris That's 6 riders they could have picked to build a decent 1 to 5 then gone with lower averaged reserve and still fit in Becker or Nicol. You say that Acef yet your club has gone for youth the way that I believe is the right way, to go,.That Wolves side you named with another to. be named scares nobody.ok at home away forget it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted December 15, 2019 5 hours ago, DC2 said: So you think riders on the way down have no place in a PL winning side? Riders like Eriksen, Zorro, Skornicki, Watt, Stead, Peter Karlsson and Harris, all picked up on false averages due to previous poor seasons and yet being instrumental in winning a title. Hans Andersen or Scott Nicholls would have been miles better for Wolves’ title aspirations for 2020. Yet you have to think farther ahead than your nose planning ahead to the next season Is pivotal as well...To just say this side might have a chance don't worry about next year is irresponsible a balance is needed I hope Wolves put that side you suggested happy days old and limited. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acef 795 Posted December 15, 2019 32 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: You say that Acef yet your club has gone for youth the way that I believe is the right way, to go,.That Wolves side you named with another to. be named scares nobody.ok at home away forget it. Yes but BV have built to the points limit. That is the most critical difference and you are missing it. Anyway, it's irrelevant. Wolves haven't deliberately built this way. It's not about youth. They took a chance on getting a number 1 and built around it in case. Now they haven't got one. Backfired. It happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 3,018 Posted December 15, 2019 2 hours ago, acef said: Yes but BV have built to the points limit. That is the most critical difference and you are missing it. Anyway, it's irrelevant. Wolves haven't deliberately built this way. It's not about youth. They took a chance on getting a number 1 and built around it in case. Now they haven't got one. Backfired. It happens. Always best to build from the top, miss out on a 4.00 reserve it's easy to find a 3.00 replacement, but miss out on a 9.00 number one & it's not easy to find a suitable alternative! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted December 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Sidney the robin said: Yet you have to think farther ahead than your nose planning ahead to the next season Is pivotal as well...To just say this side might have a chance don't worry about next year is irresponsible a balance is needed I hope Wolves put that side you suggested happy days old and limited. Hmmmm ... is that why Swindon didn’t win the league for 45 years? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,820 Posted December 15, 2019 3 hours ago, acef said: Yes but BV have built to the points limit. That is the most critical difference and you are missing it. Anyway, it's irrelevant. Wolves haven't deliberately built this way. It's not about youth. They took a chance on getting a number 1 and built around it in case. Now they haven't got one. Backfired. It happens. Depends who you believe. PA said the reason behind the points limit was because they were unsure if Nicol would be a 4 or 6 (not sure what the uncertainty has been around the average as I’ve seen others suggest it would be reassessed to 5/ use his CL converted average/ be a 4/ and now possibly a 6). Im not convinced the team was built around getting a number one either. Although the evidence on the spare points would certainly point to that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arch Stanton 2,247 Posted December 15, 2019 What happened to “TNT” on here? Was a prolific poster but haven’t seen him on here for a while.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acef 795 Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, stevebrum said: Depends who you believe. PA said the reason behind the points limit was because they were unsure if Nicol would be a 4 or 6 (not sure what the uncertainty has been around the average as I’ve seen others suggest it would be reassessed to 5/ use his CL converted average/ be a 4/ and now possibly a 6). Im not convinced the team was built around getting a number one either. Although the evidence on the spare points would certainly point to that. It's an odd commitment to make Steve if you were unsure of the average. I mean that's the type of situation that causes exactly the situation you are currently in. I'd have been seeking some very clear clarification before committing to the American Edited December 15, 2019 by acef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,820 Posted December 15, 2019 17 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: What happened to “TNT” on here? Was a prolific poster but haven’t seen him on here for a while.. Don’t think he bothers here anymore. He is prolific on the Wolves Facebook sites. 11 minutes ago, acef said: It's an odd commitment to make Steve if you were unsure of the average. I mean that's the type of situation that causes exactly the situation you are currently in. I'd have been seeking some very clear clarification before committing to the American Must admit I’m surprised at the comment. I just think they were planning to use Nicol whatever happened which to me seems odd planning. Huge pressure on Broc or the other 6 which is unfair either way. Unless the management know something we don’t know it all seems very odd planning. Unless of course there is still a surprise to come at number one although given the comments made it seems both Sam and Jacob will be included. My own personal thoughts however is that they still have fully committed to both of them because you can sure one of them will be at Ippo/Lynn/Peterborough and they too are holding back announcements. Could be a coincidence of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beowulf 1,513 Posted December 15, 2019 33 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: What happened to “TNT” on here? Was a prolific poster but haven’t seen him on here for a while.. No loss to be honest. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arch Stanton 2,247 Posted December 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, Beowulf said: No loss to be honest. Whether you agree with people’s opinions or not I’m just pleased he seems to be alive and well. When a prolific poster suddenly stops posting you do have to wonder sometimes. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, DC2 said: Hmmmm ... is that why Swindon didn’t win the league for 45 years? Really how would you know ????? you went missing for about twenty years hence the laughable comment about Phil Crump being a journeyman.!!!! Swindon have won the league three times since 2010 so they have not done to badly have they? Edited December 16, 2019 by Sidney the robin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 3,018 Posted December 16, 2019 4 hours ago, stevebrum said: Depends who you believe. PA said the reason behind the points limit was because they were unsure if Nicol would be a 4 or 6 (not sure what the uncertainty has been around the average as I’ve seen others suggest it would be reassessed to 5/ use his CL converted average/ be a 4/ and now possibly a 6). Im not convinced the team was built around getting a number one either. Although the evidence on the spare points would certainly point to that. Surprised there was any doubt, I thought it was clear Broc would be on a 4.00 ave? Had it been 6.00 I wouldn't have gone near him! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybob 2 Posted December 16, 2019 regarding TNT he dose not go so much since not working behind the scenes and poor health has restricted visits etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
