hagonshocker 1,956 Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Gavan said: I think you will find though that they dont come from us Witches fans I like to think we accept a defeat gracefully and realise we were outclassed by the leagues best team........no shame in that despite the Poole troll saying otherwise Thought the ref got both decisions spot on (Ellis exclusion and Heeps) No I don't for one minute think Witches fans are anything less than magnanimous in defeat anything but Edited October 16, 2019 by hagonshocker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,617 Posted October 16, 2019 Well done Swindon. Delighted for Rosco and Doyley. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terry 1,319 Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, DC2 said: Have I missed something about Perks? Yes, he’s gutsy but he’s not much of a points scorer. Average 3.57. I was thinking the same. 30 years ago youngsters like Loram, Screen, Dugard etc were scoring double figures and beating world class riders. Whereas Perks is nicking the odd point or 2 and people are going overboard with the praise. Fair play the guy's a battler but keep things in perspective. I guess it's a sign of how much British talent has fallen down the years. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,424 Posted October 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, Terry said: I was thinking the same. 30 years ago youngsters like Loram, Screen, Dugard etc were scoring double figures and beating world class riders. Whereas Perks is nicking the odd point or 2 and people are going overboard with the praise. Fair play the guy's a battler but keep things in perspective. I guess it's a sign of how much British talent has fallen down the years. Thought Perks likes to think of himself as an Aussie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,314 Posted October 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, Terry said: I was thinking the same. 30 years ago youngsters like Loram, Screen, Dugard etc were scoring double figures and beating world class riders. Whereas Perks is nicking the odd point or 2 and people are going overboard with the praise. Fair play the guy's a battler but keep things in perspective. I guess it's a sign of how much British talent has fallen down the years. It's because Perks came into a position which was, basically, scoring nothing in every match. Swindon had a strong top 5, but the criticism was that their reserves couldn't beat and egg, and we were narrowly losing matches regualarly because our reserves couldn't beat anyone. Perks and Vissing came in and were scoring well against the other reserves, with Perks being a great crowd pleaser with is never say die effort. Nobody is saying he is the next Loram or Screen. Adam Ellis, however, just might be...? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 5,993 Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Gavan said: No its not ridiculous its just great team building Rosco is the best there is at making team changes he has proved that over the years Love some Poole morons going on about Ipswich being an embarrassment...................the team that knocked their own side out.......... Ipswich beaten by the best team no complaints At least this year is a proper final unlike last year Gavan, you said 'morons' which is plural, more than one person, right? So apart from Steve what other Poole fan has said Ipswich are an embarrassment? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavan 5,049 Posted October 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, Terry said: I was thinking the same. 30 years ago youngsters like Loram, Screen, Dugard etc were scoring double figures and beating world class riders. Whereas Perks is nicking the odd point or 2 and people are going overboard with the praise. Fair play the guy's a battler but keep things in perspective. I guess it's a sign of how much British talent has fallen down the years. I dont think its missing something about Perks....its the level he is.....a 3-4 pointer in the top league. Where the praise is coming from is that he is a battler and at times comes out and beats some of the top boys and gives 110% It would be similar to Sarjeant going out and beating the likes of Jensen or Ellis but he didnt do that Perks is what he is and nobody is saying he is the next Loram or Screen.he isnt even the next Bewley or Lambert But last night he battled and rode well and did better than he should have He wasnt signed to get 7 or 8 points but if he can away and score 5 or 6 then job done 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavan 5,049 Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Grachan said: It's because Perks came into a position which was, basically, scoring nothing in every match. Swindon had a strong top 5, but the criticism was that their reserves couldn't beat and egg, and we were narrowly losing matches regualarly because our reserves couldn't beat anyone. Perks and Vissing came in and were scoring well against the other reserves, with Perks being a great crowd pleaser with is never say die effort. Nobody is saying he is the next Loram or Screen. Adam Ellis, however, just might be...? 100% correct Im an Ipswich fan and cant believe people think others are going overboard on Perks..................came in to do a job and probably has surpassed expectations........nobody expects him to ride in the 1-5 and do what even Ellis is doing...............but he has helped turn Swindons season round no question 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marko 950 Posted October 16, 2019 Working last night so had the luxury of being able to fast forward through all the chatter and BS, not a good meeting for the Witches, reminded me of Lakeside whenever the TV was there, all of a sudden the outside run would disappear and bang, home advantage taken a hit. Swindon are the better team though, regardless of the league table, they are imo the strongest team in the league by far, excellence balance of squad. I wont bother watching the second leg, its all over as meaningful contest now, Swindon will enjoy it and rightfully so but it wont be one for the neutrals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 5,993 Posted October 16, 2019 51 minutes ago, mj82 said: What makes you think Poole would push Swindon harder than Ipswich. You couldnt even beat Ipswich in the semi. Some Poole fans clearly have there heads stuck in the first bend ruts. It's my opinion we would have taken a lead to Swindon. Last home meeting against them we won by 10 and Jensen struggled. Only rain would have changed that. I could be way off, the joys of having an opinion which can't be proven! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavan 5,049 Posted October 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: It's my opinion we would have taken a lead to Swindon. Last home meeting against them we won by 10 and Jensen struggled. Only rain would have changed that. I could be way off, the joys of having an opinion which can't be proven! Unless im missing something then the last home meeting you won 46-44 against Swindon............you had r/r for Worrall and Covatti with 6 rides at reserve and they had Newman guesting You did win by 12 earlier in the season at home when Swindon had Lampart getting 0 and Zach having 6 rides for 1 point Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 5,993 Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Gavan said: Unless im missing something then the last home meeting you won 46-44 against Swindon............you had r/r for Worrall and Covatti with 6 rides at reserve and they had Newman guesting You did win by 12 earlier in the season at home when Swindon had Lampart getting 0 and Zach having 6 rides for 1 point Ah yeah, 10 up after H13!! That ten point lead stuck in my mind for some reason. Lol. With them being able to use a tactical too. So I still have we would have taken something to Swindon. Edited October 16, 2019 by lisa-colette Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyman 6,243 Posted October 16, 2019 Doesn't matter a toss, your team bummed out at the semi final stage,,, so ain't taking Jack schnitzel anywhere. Suck it up buttercup 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 5,993 Posted October 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Baldyman said: Doesn't matter a toss, your team bummed out at the semi final stage,,, so ain't taking Jack schnitzel anywhere. Suck it up buttercup I fine with it. People are questioning my opinion and I am just answering them. Cos I am nice like that. I haven't said Ipswich don't deserve to be in the final or slated them in any way. I just feel hypothetically, we would have done better. But as I said I could be way off. Will never know though! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terry 1,319 Posted October 16, 2019 46 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Thought Perks likes to think of himself as an Aussie. Must admit I never knew that. Well he deserves even less praise in that case Share this post Link to post Share on other sites