scoobydoo 2,254 Posted October 23, 2019 Ellis Perks is now a Premiership, Championship and as good as a National League winner all in the one season, not many if any have done that before in the same season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1 valve 558 Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, KilliePieman said: What a final though, great crowd, fantastic racing all night, the Tigers made a hell of a fight for it. Nobody can surely dissagree that from a spectator and overall entertainment perspective the two legs of the Championship final were head and shoulders above that of the Premiership? Even though both Championship legs had clear winners at both meetings, the lower tier version produced far far more drama, tension and dare I say it hope on either side. A great advert for the sport and one which the large crowds definately enjoyed. Well done to both sets of riders and management for making it possible. Edited October 23, 2019 by 1 valve 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wtf 621 Posted October 23, 2019 It almost played out as though one vastly experienced team manager made sure his team had cool heads and didn't do anything stupid, whilst another less experienced "fan" whipped his boys up into making rash decisions, throwing away points and applying no pressure. I don't think Leicester felt under any real pressure till that 5:1 went in in heat 13, yet had Glasgow clawed back 6 points after the first 4/5 heats, the pressure would have been on, then who knows what could have happened. Much credit due to SD I think 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,006 Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) Glasgow pretty much pressed the self destruct button in the final over the 2 legs right from the start (of both meetings) with countless points thrown away which in hindsight could have seen them as comfortable winners. I'm not saying Leicester were lucky as there's no luck in touching the tapes or falling off or knocking your team mates off and some may argue in engine failures also... but Leicester have such a solid side with a great blend of youth and experience that any dropped points prove almost impossible to claw back. It was my first visit to Ashfield and I have to say the whole place oozes professionalism from the moment you turn up at the stadium you can tell that promotion have put in so much effort. This should be the model that all other clubs aspire to... if only they could find a way to make it pay! Watching the 2 legs of the final reminded me how good the sport of Speedway can be and why I love it. Edited October 23, 2019 by iainb 6 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paulco 7,075 Posted October 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, wtf said: It almost played out as though one vastly experienced team manager made sure his team had cool heads and didn't do anything stupid, whilst another less experienced "fan" whipped his boys up into making rash decisions, throwing away points and applying no pressure. I don't think Leicester felt under any real pressure till that 5:1 went in in heat 13, yet had Glasgow clawed back 6 points after the first 4/5 heats, the pressure would have been on, then who knows what could have happened. Much credit due to SD I think Definitely something in that . The whole way the meeting was presented last night was aimed at whipping the crowd and the riders into a frenzy . The singing , the flares , the whole pre match stuff had the adverse effect on our younger team members . Sam Jensen was all over the place , Connor Bailey had a nightmare meeting . The Rasmus Jensen fall in heat 4 killed us , he seemed to hit something on bend 3 which caused the loss of control . The Douglas exclusion could have gone either way , if ever the all 4 back option could be extended to the end of lap 1 , there was the perfect example of a good argument for it . But a thrilling contest between the best two sides in the league produced fitting champions . But if only Paul Starke hadn't got injured . 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1 valve 558 Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, wtf said: It almost played out as though one vastly experienced team manager made sure his team had cool heads and didn't do anything stupid, Much credit due to SD I think Stewart Dickson is most probably the best team manager in UK speedway. The line up of the Lions at the start of the season was a mixture of known tried and tested riders complimented by those with something to prove or potential improvers. AKA the returning Douglas and the promising Perks. Then as injuries began to hit the line up, the guest he brought in did a great job as did the adjustments in the team line ups which not only took into account how riders rode together as a pair but also as a match up to the opposition none more so than in the final where the effect of the Tigers big guns was reduced by the more balanced Lions pairings ensuring fewer last places. Besides the management the tactical aspects he clearly can clearly build a great team ethic and the way he has got the best out of Ty Proctor (which SD admitted the "how to" had him perplexed when TP joined the Lions) is testomony tohis man managemnt skills. Maybe UK speedway missed a trick by not appointing him to lead the GB squad. Meanwhile lets hope he can be persueded to stay with the Lions for next year and beyond. Edited October 23, 2019 by 1 valve 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,723 Posted October 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, 1 valve said: Stuart Dixon is most probably the best team manager in UK speedway. The line up of the Lions at the start of the season was a mixture of known tried and tested riders complimented by those with something to prove or potential improvers. AKA the returning Douglas and the promising Perks. Then as injuries began to hit the line up, the guest he brought in did a great job as did the adjustments in the team line ups which not only took into account how riders rode together as a pair but also as a match up to the opposition none more so than in the final where the effect of the Tigers big guns was reduced by the more balanced Lions pairings ensuring fewer last places. Besides the management the tactical aspects he clearly can clearly build a great team ethic and the way he has got the best out of Ty Proctor (which SD admitted the "how to" had him perplexed when TP joined the Lions) is testomony tohis man managemnt skills. Maybe UK speedway missed a trick by not appointing him to lead the GB squad. Meanwhile lets hope he can be persueded to stay with the Lions for next year and beyond. Can`t agree- Stewart Dickson for me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taylorj 1,000 Posted October 23, 2019 5 hours ago, Bagpuss said: Well done to Leicester, always good to see the team who finished top ending up as champions. Also well done to Glasgow fans for their dignity in defeat and not biting to any of the garbage posted on the thread by people whose teams were nowhere near the final, seems that jealousy will never go away. Jealousy ....don't be so ridiculous I can't see any post from the 3 usual suspects congratulating Leicester and taking it with dignity in defeat , they leave themselves wide open to criticism , only shouting when they're winning then go into hiding when they lose .... Over to you Manse ,Solidmango, Sharpenrake 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,779 Posted October 23, 2019 Absolutely jealousy. Has been there since Glasgow were bought, all very sad. People don’t take joy in another team losing for any other reason, they wouldn’t care either way otherwise. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1 valve 558 Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, racers and royals said: Can`t agree- Stewart Dickson for me I agree too! And to prove it I have edited original post. thanks for pointing it out. my apologies to Stewart - no offence intended. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nagy1 246 Posted October 23, 2019 15 hours ago, Neila said: Poor Tigger's all that money spent and nowt in trophy cabinet apart from spiders and cobwebs well done Leicester Poor Comets all that shale and an air fence in storage somewhere not a bike on track or a team to support. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nagy1 246 Posted October 23, 2019 Well done Leicester on their victory. I will disagree with the people saying they were clearly the best team over the year. Glasgow's bad luck was the factor they topped the league. Sam Jensen falling in ht 14 @ Leicester robbed us of a win there. As to the circus freaks of Workington laughing at the Tigers, it has been a pleasure giving you something to talk about over the season. There is nothing but jealousy coming from your direction towards Glasgow. The snide remarks about money etc. The Glasgow promotion are a credit to the sport, setting the benchmark for other teams to follow. Absolute professionalism. How did the Worky business model work?? 5 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taylorj 1,000 Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, nagy1 said: Well done Leicester on their victory. I will disagree with the people saying they were clearly the best team over the year. Glasgow's bad luck was the factor they topped the league. Sam Jensen falling in ht 14 @ Leicester robbed us of a win there. As to the circus freaks of Workington laughing at the Tigers, it has been a pleasure giving you something to talk about over the season. There is nothing but jealousy coming from your direction towards Glasgow. The snide remarks about money etc. The Glasgow promotion are a credit to the sport, setting the benchmark for other teams to follow. Absolute professionalism. How did the Worky business model work?? Ooops, touched a nerve did we And that is where you lot let yourself down every time....gloating about how much money Glasgow have and how amazing they are ....Every fan and Promotion of any team would love to have the money but most are just treading water, but hey you carry on because in 5 years time there will hardly be any teams left for the Amazing Glasgow to ride against !!! Speedway is on its arse, only so many teams Buster Chapman can buy ! Edited October 23, 2019 by Taylorj 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taylorj 1,000 Posted October 23, 2019 36 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Absolutely jealousy. Has been there since Glasgow were bought, all very sad. People don’t take joy in another team losing for any other reason, they wouldn’t care either way otherwise. Hang on a minute, the clowns on here take great joy that Workington folded last season . Nagy1 a prime example on their last 2 posts , along with the other 3 . All very sad . I guarantee you its not jealousy where I'm concerned that's an absolute certainty, but nice to see the smug few on here brought back down a peg or two 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Endeavour 681 Posted October 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, nagy1 said: Well done Leicester on their victory. I will disagree with the people saying they were clearly the best team over the year. Glasgow's bad luck was the factor they topped the league. Sam Jensen falling in ht 14 @ Leicester robbed us of a win there. As to the circus freaks of Workington laughing at the Tigers, it has been a pleasure giving you something to talk about over the season. There is nothing but jealousy coming from your direction towards Glasgow. The snide remarks about money etc. The Glasgow promotion are a credit to the sport, setting the benchmark for other teams to follow. Absolute professionalism. How did the Worky business model work?? A bit of gloating going on from fans of various teams. Unsavoury. Yes Glasgow oozes professionalism but owning your own stadium goes a long way to what you can do with your facility. The Faccennas ploughed mega bucks into Ashfield; other promotions don’t have that financial background. It would be great if we did. Don’t think any fans of any team should post about a closure of a track. We need as many teams as possible in our sport. Again well done to both teams and congratulations to Leicester, topped the table, tactically sound last night, worthy winners. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites