Dandelion 775 Posted December 7, 2019 Excited to see how young Zach gets on in the uk Seems a hell of a talent... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RebelDan 203 Posted December 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Dandelion said: Excited to see how young Zach gets on in the uk Seems a hell of a talent... Good luck to the lad I hope he gets his Visa sorted. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dandelion 775 Posted December 7, 2019 4 hours ago, RebelDan said: Good luck to the lad I hope he gets his Visa sorted. When he was first announced this morning there was nowt about a visa, now it's a problem... Hope it's not a last minute problem which means he can't come over What's the difference between him and lets say Josh MacDonald? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teaboy279 1,038 Posted December 7, 2019 To be fair why are we tracking raw aussie kids, when we have many many young brits set to be without a ride depending on size and format of the NL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted December 7, 2019 1 minute ago, teaboy279 said: To be fair why are we tracking raw aussie kids, when we have many many young brits set to be without a ride depending on size and format of the NL. Zach Cook, Kennedy or MacDonald on a 4 or Hume and Kinsley on 3-ish? Hume should certainly be taken under someone’s wing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poolebolton 464 Posted December 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, DC2 said: Zach Cook, Kennedy or MacDonald on a 4 or Hume and Kinsley on 3-ish? Hume should certainly be taken under someone’s wing. 17 minutes ago, teaboy279 said: To be fair why are we tracking raw aussie kids, when we have many many young brits set to be without a ride depending on size and format of the NL. Partly because you gain an asset and they have far greater potential. Cook could be brady kurtz join and average 7 by the end of the season while Hume or Kingsley arent going to do that. Also certain promoters are fed up with British riders quitting halfway through seasons. (WHich if its a business i fully understand). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted December 7, 2019 (edited) 59 minutes ago, poolebolton said: Partly because you gain an asset and they have far greater potential. Cook could be brady kurtz join and average 7 by the end of the season while Hume or Kingsley arent going to do that. Also certain promoters are fed up with British riders quitting halfway through seasons. (WHich if its a business i fully understand). He’s done nothing in Australia to suggest he’s a 7 pointer. Even Sedgmen regularly beats all of the emerging Aussies and he’s only a 5.2 point CL rider. To be fair, he’s just finished fourth today in the NSW Championship behind Holder, Holder and Pickering, so fair enough. Edited December 7, 2019 by DC2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poolebolton 464 Posted December 7, 2019 23 minutes ago, DC2 said: He’s done nothing in Australia to suggest he’s a 7 pointer. Even Sedgmen regularly beats all of the emerging Aussies and he’s only a 5.2 point CL rider. It’s potential though. I’m not saying he is going to be a 7 pointer. But Hume etc have reached the peak. Cook is 19 and probs needs 3/5 years to reach the peak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted December 7, 2019 20 minutes ago, poolebolton said: It’s potential though. I’m not saying he is going to be a 7 pointer. But Hume etc have reached the peak. Cook is 19 and probs needs 3/5 years to reach the peak. So we write off Danyon Hume aged 21? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poolebolton 464 Posted December 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, DC2 said: So we write off Danyon Hume aged 21? Im not personally. It seems like promoters do though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drew2 248 Posted December 7, 2019 I'm looking forward to seeing how Zach gets on. I didn't see the NL level meeting he rode at the OTA last season (which he did well in I'm told despite only just getting off the plane from Oz!) but he looked stylish when he had few after meeting spins at the OTA in 2019. Yes I know that is different to racing but as has already been mentioned he fared well in Oz earlier today and I seem to recall a top 4 in a State Championship used to qualify them for a visa?? This 'young Aussie' has been a tried and tested method for the Rebels in last ten or so years. Gazza and Debbie haven't done too badly so far with their selections over the years of bringing in new Aussies, Sam Masters, Justin Sedgmen, Brady Kurtz & Jake Allen all spring to mind! No reason why Zach shouldn't follow that positive trend at Somerset. Reckon I could guess who might be the trusted spanner man for young Zach as well. He has worked for a few of the aforementioned Aussie riders before with plenty of success! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teaboy279 1,038 Posted December 8, 2019 8 hours ago, poolebolton said: It’s potential though. I’m not saying he is going to be a 7 pointer. But Hume etc have reached the peak. Cook is 19 and probs needs 3/5 years to reach the peak. Hume has just finished his first serious injury free season of his career, so no where near his potential. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poolebolton 464 Posted December 8, 2019 14 minutes ago, teaboy279 said: Hume has just finished his first serious injury free season of his career, so no where near his potential. Being honest I don’t know that much about Hume. I think it’s more the fact you get an asset from abroad and can potentially see them develop. I also think everyone is after the Next Darcy Ward. Which is crazy Because that’s a 1 in 20 year talent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TurnTwo 317 Posted December 8, 2019 6 hours ago, poolebolton said: Being honest I don’t know that much about Hume. I think it’s more the fact you get an asset from abroad and can potentially see them develop. I also think everyone is after the Next Darcy Ward. Which is crazy Because that’s a 1 in 20 year talent. I think the other thing is the Aussies don’t have a league to ride in back home like the poles, brits, Danes, swedes and even the Germans have. I think they realise they have to make it otherwise that’s it no job as a speedway rider whereas the young brits seem to just rely on the NL 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teaboy279 1,038 Posted December 8, 2019 6 hours ago, poolebolton said: Being honest I don’t know that much about Hume. I think it’s more the fact you get an asset from abroad and can potentially see them develop. I also think everyone is after the Next Darcy Ward. Which is crazy Because that’s a 1 in 20 year talent. I dont mean this disrespectfully but I had got the impression you was a bit of a stranger to the lower leagues and youth riders. Trust me there is plenty of talent better then the aussie imports, if only promoters werent constantly trying to sign foreign assets for free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites