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9 hours ago, Dandelion said:

Josh, Joe, Archie, Kieran as the second strings/reserves

Max Clegg can't do NL as far as I'm aware, same with Connor... Not sure about James?

Danny Phillips no thanks, think he'll end up retiring, Connor Coles already rides for IOW.

It will be interesting to see who we put together, by the sounds of things Rob has already got a good idea of who he wants... Maybe a few more ex-Stoke riders? Luke Priest, Rob Shuttleworth etc...

Would like to see Ben Morley, always liked him as a rider and as far as I'm aware he is not hooked up anywhere for next year yet? Be a great number 1 in the NL

He's signed for the IOW as well.

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12 hours ago, Dandelion said:
1 Ben Morley 9.18 GBR
2 Joe Alcock 4.36 GBR
3 Rob Shuttleworth 6.05 GBR
4 Josh Embleton 4.83 GBR
5 Tom Perry 8.50 GBR
6 Kieran Douglas 3.00 GBR
7 Archie Freeman 3.00 GBR

 

Wouldn't be a world beating side, but it would give a few young, local lads a leg up and a bit of experience... Would be a nice side to watch... Can someone explain to me the format of the NL trophy, how many meetings will there be? Are they full 15 heat meetings?

Also will there be a NJL team next year? Or maybe even MDL with Josh, Joe, Archie, Danny being the main four 500s

The NL Trophy currently has IOW, Plymouth and Mildenhall (1 home, 1 away) so if Newcastle were accepted they'd have 3 home meetings and some lengthy travelling.

The NL AGM statement also mentions new rules for trophy meetings;

* Immediately prior to the meeting, the away team manager will select two races between Heats 5 and 12 inclusive where the highest-averaged rider from each team in that race will start from a 15-metre handicap.
* Between Heats 5 and 12 inclusive (except for the races pre-selected as above), an additional tactical option is available to a team six or more points in arrears who can, on one occasion, select gate positions for the following race.

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On 1/9/2020 at 11:50 PM, CountyGround said:

"finger buffet" will that suit the ever increasing vegetarians?  ha  ha........... 

 

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In the past, teams who had only entered the National Trophy (Swindon / Cradley) were able to sign any rider not racing in the Trophy, so if nothing's changed riders from Leicester, Belle Vue, Armadale and Kent could sign for the Gems!

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25 minutes ago, szkocjasid said:

In the past, teams who had only entered the National Trophy (Swindon / Cradley) were able to sign any rider not racing in the Trophy, so if nothing's changed riders from Leicester, Belle Vue, Armadale and Kent could sign for the Gems!

This Newcastle late bid seems very strange and should be turned down.

If they wanted to join the NDL why weren't they at the AGM?   To allow someone to join at this stage after the AGM is done and dusted, and teams have been built, would be crazy.  It sets a dangerous precedent for future years.

Also.  The Trophy is for standalone clubs only (remember Belle Vue, Leicester, Armadale and Kent weren't allowed to enter the trophy).  If Newcastle wanted to join anything, it should be the NDL (and should have been done at the AGM).

Finally if Newcastle were allowed into the trophy (and they shouldn't be), surely they would have to sign 7 riders from the large number of riders who have been frozen out of the NDL by the low points limit and reduced number of teams.   To allow them to take riders at a whim from Belle Vue, Kent, Leicester or Armadale would be ludicrous, especially since those teams were blocked from entering the Trophy.

 

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8 minutes ago, PotteringAround said:

This Newcastle late bid seems very strange and should be turned down.

If they wanted to join the NDL why weren't they at the AGM?   To allow someone to join at this stage after the AGM is done and dusted, and teams have been built, would be crazy.  It sets a dangerous precedent for future years.

Also.  The Trophy is for standalone clubs only (remember Belle Vue, Leicester, Armadale and Kent weren't allowed to enter the trophy).  If Newcastle wanted to join anything, it should be the NDL (and should have been done at the AGM).

Finally if Newcastle were allowed into the trophy (and they shouldn't be), surely they would have to sign 7 riders from the large number of riders who have been frozen out of the NDL by the low points limit and reduced number of teams.   To allow them to take riders at a whim from Belle Vue, Kent, Leicester or Armadale would be ludicrous, especially since those teams were blocked from entering the Trophy.

 

Maybe they are just trying to do something different?

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28 minutes ago, phillipsr said:

Should enter the CL team.. might have a chance 

Love your positive posts ( idiot )

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17 hours ago, PotteringAround said:

This Newcastle late bid seems very strange and should be turned down.

If they wanted to join the NDL why weren't they at the AGM?   To allow someone to join at this stage after the AGM is done and dusted, and teams have been built, would be crazy.  It sets a dangerous precedent for future years.

Also.  The Trophy is for standalone clubs only (remember Belle Vue, Leicester, Armadale and Kent weren't allowed to enter the trophy).  If Newcastle wanted to join anything, it should be the NDL (and should have been done at the AGM).

Finally if Newcastle were allowed into the trophy (and they shouldn't be), surely they would have to sign 7 riders from the large number of riders who have been frozen out of the NDL by the low points limit and reduced number of teams.   To allow them to take riders at a whim from Belle Vue, Kent, Leicester or Armadale would be ludicrous, especially since those teams were blocked from entering the Trophy.

 

They weren't blocked. The standalone clubs understandably wanted more meetings whilst Belle Vue, Kent, Leicester and Armadale obviously have PL/CL fixtures that take priority and couldn't fit in the extra meetings. 

The U21 qualifiers and the Riders Championship/Fours/Pairs also went to Mildenhall, Plymouth and IOW to give them the extra meetings they wanted. I'm sure those 3 would be happy to have Newcastle included as well

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22 hours ago, PotteringAround said:

This Newcastle late bid seems very strange and should be turned down.

If they wanted to join the NDL why weren't they at the AGM?   To allow someone to join at this stage after the AGM is done and dusted, and teams have been built, would be crazy.  It sets a dangerous precedent for future years.

Also.  The Trophy is for standalone clubs only (remember Belle Vue, Leicester, Armadale and Kent weren't allowed to enter the trophy).  If Newcastle wanted to join anything, it should be the NDL (and should have been done at the AGM).

Finally if Newcastle were allowed into the trophy (and they shouldn't be), surely they would have to sign 7 riders from the large number of riders who have been frozen out of the NDL by the low points limit and reduced number of teams.   To allow them to take riders at a whim from Belle Vue, Kent, Leicester or Armadale would be ludicrous, especially since those teams were blocked from entering the Trophy.

 

I don't think Belle Vue, Leicester, Kent & Armadale were blocked from entering the NT they only wanted 6 home matches, anyone wanting more home matches could have entered the Trophy I'd bet!

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22 hours ago, PotteringAround said:

This Newcastle late bid seems very strange and should be turned down.

If they wanted to join the NDL why weren't they at the AGM?  To allow someone to join at this stage after the AGM is done and dusted, and teams have been built, would be crazy.  It sets a dangerous precedent for future years.

Also.  The Trophy is for standalone clubs only (remember Belle Vue, Leicester, Armadale and Kent weren't allowed to enter the trophy).  If Newcastle wanted to join anything, it should be the NDL (and should have been done at the AGM).

Finally if Newcastle were allowed into the trophy (and they shouldn't be), surely they would have to sign 7 riders from the large number of riders who have been frozen out of the NDL by the low points limit and reduced number of teams.   To allow them to take riders at a whim from Belle Vue, Kent, Leicester or Armadale would be ludicrous, especially since those teams were blocked from entering the Trophy.

 

1) if a club joins after the AGM they have to follow same rules & could only pick riders not already signed up, this would not hinder any other club as they would have already signed up the best riders available!

2) If there's a large number of riders frozen out from the NL, why not allow another team!

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Its a venture to get Joe Alcock out on track funded by Tattum and does have a minor indication if NDL racing is viable however if it is a team built of scraps it will be respectable but unlikely to be victorious. It could be used to give some of the local youngsters a spin and see what level they are truly at? Its certainly a benefit for the standalone clubs but its certainly some mileage for the Gems side.

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May be Newcastle are thinking of the future and hope that having one foot in the NL gives them something to fall back on, if their Championship campaign fails?

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On 1/12/2020 at 1:13 AM, szkocjasid said:

In the past, teams who had only entered the National Trophy (Swindon / Cradley) were able to sign any rider not racing in the Trophy, so if nothing's changed riders from Leicester, Belle Vue, Armadale and Kent could sign for the Gems!

Not so.

Kemp could have ridden in the NT final for either Cradley or Mildenhall! Cradley also had Bowtell, Perks & Edwards in the team all of who were already  in the competition with their NL teams. 

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2 hours ago, flipper11 said:

Not so.

Kemp could have ridden in the NT final for either Cradley or Mildenhall! Cradley also had Bowtell, Perks & Edwards in the team all of who were already  in the competition with their NL teams. 

You're right, as Cradley were in the Northern group, they could sign riders from the southern group!

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