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5 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said:

WHY do they make things so complicated?

For commercial reasons. BT would prefer you to watch their channels on their own service. So, by restricting what they give Sky and Virgin they hope to get people to switch to them for the full service.

Sky do the same, restricting UHD and not allowing Virgin to show Sky Atlantic. Again they hope viewers will switch to Sky for the full service. On Virgin we get all the BT Sport channels but not access to their app, player or catch-up service. Again, they want us to get their TV, and more crucially broadband internet from them.

When you pay Sky, a proportion of what you pay then has to be paid on by Sky to the owners of channels that are not owned by Sky, such as Eurosport. Part of your payment goes to Discovery, Eurosport's owners. This is why many people think Eurosport in the UK is free - you don't have to pay a separate charge, but it's there in the monthly package fee. 

BT decided not to do such a deal with Sky. They instead decided to sell subscriptions direct, so if you paid £30 a month to Sky you'd need to pay a separate £30 to BT direct instead of £60 to Sky. The channels would be on the Sky satellites but not in Sky's own package. Since they started their multichannel service in 1989 Sky have always been happy to let people think they own all the channels. They don't and never have done. As we know, Discovery own a large number, as does UKTV (Dave, Gold etc) anf Viacom (MTV etc). They all get their cut out of Sky's monthly charges. Until now BT did their own 'thing'. 

 

 

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The licence fee used to cover it all :(  There's just too many channels now available and far too many bl00dy adverts.

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4 hours ago, SPEEDY69 said:

The licence fee used to cover it all :(  There's just too many channels now available and far too many bl00dy adverts.

Agreed. As someone involved in the dawn of satellite TV I know we were out to broaden choice and offer specialised programming that the existing networks couldn't or wouldn't show.

Then along came Murdoch and we are swimming in endless American TV, especially drama, to the point where some people seem unable to realise they don't live in America ;-)

As has been proved by Discovery/Eurosport both in Britain and internationally, money counts. It would be comforting to know that the money will filter through to benefit the sport and not just a handful of competitors. Past experience does suggest otherwise....

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12 hours ago, SPEEDY69 said:

The licence fee used to cover it all :(  There's just too many channels now available and far too many bl00dy adverts.

If you don't like the adverts, just record everything on sky+ and fast forward, when they come on. I've been doing this for years.

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1 hour ago, RS50 said:

If you don't like the adverts, just record everything on sky+ and fast forward, when they come on. I've been doing this for years.

So, let's say 10 years at 5 minutes a day, that's over 300 hours sat fast forwarding. Good use of time. :D

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13 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said:

So, let's say 10 years at 5 minutes a day, that's over 300 hours sat fast forwarding. Good use of time. :D

 

But it would be ten times that if you sat through the adverts!

 

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3 hours ago, RS50 said:

If you don't like the adverts, just record everything on sky+ and fast forward, when they come on. I've been doing this for years.

Mostly do that, not long ago I timed a program and it had 45 mins of program and 15 of intro and adverts.   

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3 hours ago, DC2 said:

 

But it would be ten times that if you sat through the adverts!

 

Difficult to avoid for live events, which is why I always prefer BBC coverage and have drifted away from other sports I used to enjoy such as Cricket.  Can just about bear it to watch speedway coverage.

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5 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said:

Difficult to avoid for live events, which is why I always prefer BBC coverage and have drifted away from other sports I used to enjoy such as Cricket.  Can just about bear it to watch speedway coverage.

 

You were complaining about wasting 300 hours every year fast forwarding through adverts.

And yet you watch cricket?????  :)

 

 

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1 hour ago, SPEEDY69 said:

Difficult to avoid for live events, which is why I always prefer BBC coverage and have drifted away from other sports I used to enjoy such as Cricket.  Can just about bear it to watch speedway coverage.

I let live sport get a head start and then start watching after about 15 minutes. Then I can just f/f the ads. At one time ITV was allowed six minutes of ads per hour. Now a one hour programme on a commercial channel indeed is about 40-45 of actual programme with the rest ads and programme promos. 

When it comes to sport channels it's sheer greed to sell advertising on top of charging viewers extortionate monthly fees.

 

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On 12/11/2019 at 8:42 AM, DC2 said:

 

But it would be ten times that if you sat through the adverts!

 

x30 :D

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On 12/11/2019 at 6:35 AM, RS50 said:

If you don't like the adverts, just record everything on sky+ and fast forward, when they come on. I've been doing this for years.

Me too!  At 30x  they are gone in the blink of an eye. If I see another advert for that ruddy Peleton bike, I swear I'll throw something at the TV.

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On 12/9/2019 at 3:54 PM, Bunce said:

That's a pain. Means I have to pay out for BT Sport just to watch the GP's. Eurosport is already part of my Sky package.

Not necessarily. For years now the GPs have been uploaded onto YouTube, which you can watch on a smart TV.,  and usually on there by late evening. Therefore, don't look at the result then watch it as a 'live' performance the following day. No ads either. 

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7 minutes ago, tocha said:

Not necessarily. For years now the GPs have been uploaded onto YouTube, which you can watch on a smart TV.,  and usually on there by late evening. Therefore, don't look at the result then watch it as a 'live' performance the following day. No ads either. 

You can also ff the boring bits.

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just watching tennis on Eurosport adverts all the time .hope it is not so frequent when they start speedway coverage 

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