Ben91 1,743 Posted July 26, 2020 5 hours ago, RobMcCaffery said: All negativity hides behind "realism". Cute soundbite but completely false. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,333 Posted July 26, 2020 6 hours ago, RobMcCaffery said: All negativity hides behind "realism". No doubt we'll soon hear calls to give up on the 2021 season :-( Some tracks will have lost less money this year.Its the riders that are the biggest losers.IMO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
East End Fan 426 Posted July 28, 2020 On 7/26/2020 at 7:14 PM, Fromafar said: Some tracks will have lost less money this year.Its the riders that are the biggest losers.IMO In this situation everyone is a loser and unless we see a vaccine within the next few weeks. we will all still be losers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,333 Posted July 28, 2020 Just now, East End Fan said: In this situation everyone is a loser and unless we see a vaccine within the next few weeks. we will all still be losers. Very much doubt a vaccine will be generally available in a few weeks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
East End Fan 426 Posted August 9, 2020 On 7/28/2020 at 1:02 PM, Fromafar said: Very much doubt a vaccine will be generally available in a few weeks. TV news on Sunday reported that 50% of the population would refuse to be innoculated anyway. Find that hard to believe and certainly hard to accept. There can be no doubt that the only way out of the present mess is for a nationally administered vaccine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,333 Posted August 9, 2020 29 minutes ago, East End Fan said: TV news on Sunday reported that 50% of the population would refuse to be innoculated anyway. Find that hard to believe and certainly hard to accept. There can be no doubt that the only way out of the present mess is for a nationally administered vaccine. Personally can see why people would refuse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crescent girl 1,904 Posted August 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Fromafar said: Personally can see why people would refuse. Why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSC67 1,465 Posted August 9, 2020 13 minutes ago, crescent girl said: Why? Probably for the reasons as people refused to give their kids the MMR inoculation, I’ve been offered the flu jab numerous times and have always refused it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triple.H. 1,981 Posted August 9, 2020 4 hours ago, East End Fan said: TV news on Sunday reported that 50% of the population would refuse to be innoculated anyway. Find that hard to believe and certainly hard to accept. There can be no doubt that the only way out of the present mess is for a nationally administered vaccine. So it takes 7-8 years to develop a vaccine to prove theres no side effects etc and you think its OK for the Government to force people to be vaccinated with something not fully tested 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,333 Posted August 9, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, crescent girl said: Why? Not everybody wants injected with a vaccine that has been rushed through and it’s their prerogative That is my opinion.Most medicines have side effects. Edited August 9, 2020 by Fromafar 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffdiamond 6,115 Posted August 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Not everybody wants injected with a vaccine that has been rushed through and it’s their prerogative That is my opinion.Most medicines have side effects. Especially pharmaceuticals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
East End Fan 426 Posted August 11, 2020 On 8/9/2020 at 8:41 PM, Fromafar said: Not everybody wants injected with a vaccine that has been rushed through and it’s their prerogative That is my opinion.Most medicines have side effects. But isn't vaccination the only way out of the Coronavirus horror ? We cannot look at the future without looking at an end to what we have been going through. And not just medically. Financially we can only get back to normal when people can live normally. How do we do that without a vaccine ? So although there is an argument for not wishing to take a jab, the arguments in the other direction are IMO overwhelming. Maybe one of those suggesting that they would not take the vaccine tell us how else do we get back to a normal life ? And MY normal life includes a weekly dose of Speedway..at present totally absent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, East End Fan said: But isn't vaccination the only way out of the Coronavirus horror ? We cannot look at the future without looking at an end to what we have been going through. And not just medically. Financially we can only get back to normal when people can live normally. How do we do that without a vaccine ? So although there is an argument for not wishing to take a jab, the arguments in the other direction are IMO overwhelming. Maybe one of those suggesting that they would not take the vaccine tell us how else do we get back to a normal life ? And MY normal life includes a weekly dose of Speedway..at present totally absent. What horror? It ended months ago. It's just the government, scaremongering media and idiots who think everyone is dropping dead still that prolong it. You've just presented the entire reason why the current restrictions are in place.. not because they are necessary.. but to drive you to a vaccine. Edited August 11, 2020 by BWitcher 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gazzac 1,013 Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, East End Fan said: But isn't vaccination the only way out of the Coronavirus horror ? We cannot look at the future without looking at an end to what we have been going through. And not just medically. Financially we can only get back to normal when people can live normally. How do we do that without a vaccine ? So although there is an argument for not wishing to take a jab, the arguments in the other direction are IMO overwhelming. Maybe one of those suggesting that they would not take the vaccine tell us how else do we get back to a normal life ? And MY normal life includes a weekly dose of Speedway..at present totally absent. If the majority of people take the vaccine when approved and available, it should control it, but being harsh if the one's who don't they will either be lucky and not catch covid or will become ill or worse, or at best recover and hopefully have some immunity, and the only ones they could pass it on to are like wise non participants of a vaccine. Maybe some people will have side effects with the vaccine, but that is the same with any vaccine but the whole picture would be far better with a vaccine than without, just hope the Oxford one is successful, would still have far more confidence in our processes than Russia, USA etc. Only horrible variable with all of this is if the virus keeps mutating, then it really will be with us in big way for a long time. Edited August 11, 2020 by gazzac 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,333 Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, East End Fan said: But isn't vaccination the only way out of the Coronavirus horror ? We cannot look at the future without looking at an end to what we have been going through. And not just medically. Financially we can only get back to normal when people can live normally. How do we do that without a vaccine ? So although there is an argument for not wishing to take a jab, the arguments in the other direction are IMO overwhelming. Maybe one of those suggesting that they would not take the vaccine tell us how else do we get back to a normal life ? And MY normal life includes a weekly dose of Speedway..at present totally absent. Just my opinion,common sense will keep the virus at bay ,it’s not going to disappear .Not saying vaccination won’t help.Its interesting that the Large Emergency Hospital’s set up to cope with the pandemic were really not required in this instance.I accept that it was a necessary precaution in this instance.Scotland’s Louisa Jordon seemingly had no admissions.Surely this 2nd wave will be able to to be kept in check with local measures.From what I have witnessed most people are going about there normal business taking the precautions .The Government are the people pulling the strings.Think it will be a while for normality to return. I think the biggest panic is the State of the Health Service .They don’t want caught out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites