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9 minutes ago, Albert said:

If this is the scenario...Plymouth in and Newcastle out....  would that then mean Plymouth replacing Leicester in the southern region?....Leicester go into the northern group?  ...don't think they'd be too happy about that!

In truth, yes. 

But if you have such a split, then this is what happens and it cannot be avoided.  

As I have said above, the regional split relies on having even numbers in each group so I think its not even a question of whether Plymouth will replace Newcastle, I am pretty sure they will. 

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I'm sure the period of grace given to Newcastle is so that a change of ownership can be undertaken (Ged Rathbone??) and for that to be acceptable to bspa.

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27 minutes ago, Skidder1 said:

I'm sure the period of grace given to Newcastle is so that a change of ownership can be undertaken (Ged Rathbone??) and for that to be acceptable to bspa.

Ged Rathbone and the BSPA? ( Chairman Rob Godfrey )

no clash there then.

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1 minute ago, Fortythirtyeight said:

Ged Rathbone and the BSPA? ( Chairman Rob Godfrey )

no clash there then.

Yeah but a new board of Directors that could well be much more Rathbone-friendly!!!

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How can the championship now ever be taken seriously when teams do not race each other an equal number of times... it's either got to be once or twice but not some 3 and some four.. absolute shambles

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2 hours ago, Mr Blobby said:

Godfrey in charge, brilliant, the man is corrupt.

Speedway is really doomed....Godfrey is a useless ignorant buffoon...Chapman will go down as the worst BSPA Chairman ever...but Godfrey will soon surpass him :unsure:

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11 minutes ago, psycho3a said:

How can the championship now ever be taken seriously when teams do not race each other an equal number of times... it's either got to be once or twice but not some 3 and some four.. absolute shambles

Wasn't it similar in the Elite league a few years ago. It went down like a lead balloon at the time.

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4 minutes ago, psycho3a said:

How can the championship now ever be taken seriously when teams do not race each other an equal number of times... it's either got to be once or twice but not some 3 and some four.. absolute shambles

Very good point. If you are in a strong group may as well stop your season at the start having have to play them more. 

 

Better of having a 20 team league playing each other home and away once. 

 

Then once the league has finished the top 10 go in to the premiership play off final 1 v 10, 2 v 9 etc etc.

Then winner of that is the premiership champion.

 

The other 10 will then compete for the championship crown. 11th vs 20th and so on and so on. 

 

Only one team per rider no doubling up etc. Each team must then Also have a junior team of NDL standard riders ( 4 per team ) to compete in the meeting afterwards. 3 riders must be under 21 the 4th can be any age. But the team should help being around all the other riders and learning off them. 

 

Should any of your riders be unavailable apart from 1 and 5 you can only use from your Devleopment team. ( but can move your team around so that they go into reserve. 

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Did anyone in that meeting, i wonder, object to this ridiculous idea. 22 league matches - whats the fkin problem? why come up with some ludicrous half assed idea like this. 5 1/2 months of lge racing, 2/4 weeks cup/ play offs - mid march to end sept/early oct

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On 11/14/2019 at 3:24 PM, moxey63 said:

I was just thinking of the 70s at Belle Vue. We had Les Collins, Chris Turner, Jim Brett, etc doubling up. But they were riding in the second division with the intent of moving into the Aces' team a year or tow later.  

What about Steve Finch or Steve Wilcock or Rod Hunter.. They doubled up and never had intention of signing for the Aces. 

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1 hour ago, Trotter65 said:

What about Steve Finch or Steve Wilcock or Rod Hunter.. They doubled up and never had intention of signing for the Aces. 

You are right, there were shady rules back then. But they just seem to have mushroomed so much now. Finch was brought in as a replacement for injured Alan Wilkinson in 1978, Wilcock covered matches for injured Mike Lohmann in 1980, whereas Hunter was a target for Belle Vue but chose to move up with Newcastle in 1984.

You forgot Bobby Beaton, who signed for Aces in 1982 so the then Belle Vue manager Ian Thomas could use him on an assessed 7.50 average for his Newcastle team in the second league.

Apart from the three you mentioned, I don't recall any other riders during that era who rode for Belle Vue but hadn't plans on racing full time for the club.

Speedway does itself no favours with the stand-in utility.  It is a sticky plaster so promoters don't have to find proper replacements.

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39 minutes ago, ch958 said:

Did anyone in that meeting, i wonder, object to this ridiculous idea. 22 league matches - whats the fkin problem? why come up with some ludicrous half assed idea like this. 5 1/2 months of lge racing, 2/4 weeks cup/ play offs - mid march to end sept/early oct

 

They’re saving money on travel costs and hoping they might get 100 away supporters at the “local” derbies.

A couple of grand a meeting is big money these days.

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15 minutes ago, DC2 said:

 

They’re saving money on travel costs and hoping they might get 100 away supporters at the “local” derbies.

A couple of grand a meeting is big money these days.

An idea thats been mentioned on here many times..

Makes perfect sense to have your more 'local' rivals visit more often given how just a few extra fans in can make such a difference these days as you say..

Also getting the supporters cup done and dusted early too rather than having all the 'finals' being ran at the end of the season is another 'no brainer' we have suggested..

And looking at letting the Champs keep the same team from 2021?

Good to see we are taken notice of...:D

Maybe we should charge a fee?;)

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37 minutes ago, DC2 said:

 

They’re saving money on travel costs and hoping they might get 100 away supporters at the “local” derbies.

A couple of grand a meeting is big money these days.

Saving money on travel costs? Can't the riders arrange with supporters to take them to matches?

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Just now, moxey63 said:

Saving money on travel costs? Can't the riders arrange with supporters to take them to matches?

 

Don’t be daft, they’d need seven.  :)

 

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