Knockout Cup Draw

[Fromafar 10,333]

54 minutes ago, racers and royals said:

Seems pretty obvious to me- someone cocked up on writing down the names after the original draw and as soon as they realised they corrected it( under 2 months isn`t bad)

agree

[Bear_Bottom 516]

11 hours ago, racers and royals said:

Seems pretty obvious to me- someone cocked up on writing down the names after the original draw and as soon as they realised they corrected it( under 2 months isn`t bad)

Easy mistake...I'm always getting my Poole Brown Ale mixed up with that other one.  

Edited January 27, 2020 by Bear_Bottom

[Skidder1 7,631]

The Eastbourne promoter has given his view and has accepted the BSPA  decision as to the reasons for the change - without saying anything about the actual reasons, other than that they were valid!!

[racers and royals 8,712]

2 hours ago, Skidder1 said:

The Eastbourne promoter has given his view and has accepted the BSPA  decision as to the reasons for the change - without saying anything about the actual reasons, other than that they were valid!!

That’s a surprise- i would have thought he would have rather met Newcastle with probably double the cost of meeting them rather than Poole which would be probably double the attendance !!!

[gazzac 1,013]

30 minutes ago, racers and royals said:

That’s a surprise- i would have thought he would have rather met Newcastle with probably double the cost of meeting them rather than Poole which would be probably double the attendance !!!

Maybe he knows Pooles last 2 riders and thinks they're an easier proposition than Newcastle! 

[00000 1,279]

7 hours ago, Skidder1 said:

The Eastbourne promoter has given his view and has accepted the BSPA  decision as to the reasons for the change - without saying anything about the actual reasons, other than that they were valid!!

He indicated the reasons were confidential but it was not for him to say what they were; indicating that any such announcement would have to come from the BSPA. 

Therefore, it is not his place to say what the reasons were.

 

 

[Skidder1 7,631]

1 hour ago, Richard Weston said:

He indicated the reasons were confidential but it was not for him to say what they were; indicating that any such announcement would have to come from the BSPA. 

Therefore, it is not his place to say what the reasons were.

 

 

I agree. It wasn't a criticism, just a comment!!

[hammer1969 414]

14 hours ago, Skidder1 said:

I agree. It wasn't a criticism, just a comment!!

 

So we now know the reason for Poole getting a bye after having been originally drawn to meet Newcastle in the 1st round,  the following is copied from the Poole website.

"The Poole management are keen to clarify the situation regarding the SGB Championship KO Cup draw, with their tie against the Eastbourne Eagles being confirmed as a second round tie.

Initially, the club had been drawn to face Edinburgh in the first round but trying to slot an early cup date into the club's busy start of season campaign encountered a number of logistical problems, particularly as the Pirates, back on Wednesday night racing, have to share the date with Birmingham and Somerset (together with Kent) and do not have the 'grandfather' rights over those two already established Championship clubs.  Newcastle, originally drawn with a bye to the second round, had greater flexibility in the early weeks of the season and so, rather than risk delaying the competition unnecessarily, the two promotions reached an agreement, sanctioned by the BSPA that the Diamond's  would take Poole's place in the first round. The Pirates were then subsequently drawn against Eastbourne, who along with Kent and Scunthorpe were routed into the second round.

Poole promoter Dan Ford explained "Our fixture list is pretty much very packed out in the first couple of months of the season and fitting in an early round cup tie was proving impractical. We spoke with the Newcastle promotion and reached a sensible compromise. The switch between us and Newcastle made sense on so many levels and so we jointly made the approach to the governing body to allow this to happen.

The Pirates will race the cup tie against Eastbourne on 10th June (home) and 14th June (away)."

[DC2 11,150]

 

And there you have it: complete nonsense.  

 

[ruffdiamond 6,115]

Not that I agree with it, it is sort of sensible. So now that it's ok to do it, come on guys, start thinking about who you want to meet in next season's cup and, the 'draw' can be arranged early. 

[racers and royals 8,712]

1 hour ago, hammer1969 said:

 

So we now know the reason for Poole getting a bye after having been originally drawn to meet Newcastle in the 1st round,  the following is copied from the Poole website.

"The Poole management are keen to clarify the situation regarding the SGB Championship KO Cup draw, with their tie against the Eastbourne Eagles being confirmed as a second round tie.

Initially, the club had been drawn to face Edinburgh in the first round but trying to slot an early cup date into the club's busy start of season campaign encountered a number of logistical problems, particularly as the Pirates, back on Wednesday night racing, have to share the date with Birmingham and Somerset (together with Kent) and do not have the 'grandfather' rights over those two already established Championship clubs.  Newcastle, originally drawn with a bye to the second round, had greater flexibility in the early weeks of the season and so, rather than risk delaying the competition unnecessarily, the two promotions reached an agreement, sanctioned by the BSPA that the Diamond's  would take Poole's place in the first round. The Pirates were then subsequently drawn against Eastbourne, who along with Kent and Scunthorpe were routed into the second round.

Poole promoter Dan Ford explained "Our fixture list is pretty much very packed out in the first couple of months of the season and fitting in an early round cup tie was proving impractical. We spoke with the Newcastle promotion and reached a sensible compromise. The switch between us and Newcastle made sense on so many levels and so we jointly made the approach to the governing body to allow this to happen.

The Pirates will race the cup tie against Eastbourne on 10th June (home) and 14th June (away)."

Must think we are all  complete mugs !!!!!! 

[DC2 11,150]

33 minutes ago, racers and royals said:

Must think we are all  complete mugs !!!!!! 

 

But that’s the way in speedway. It’s hanging on by such a thread that manipulation is commonplace.

 

[hammer1969 414]

The Championship in my opinion was a nicely run league, we now get "newcomers" to it and suddenly a word in the right ear and cup ties get changed.  The cup fixtures were sorted and advised to all, they should never have been changed just because one club found it difficult to fit in a first round meeting.   If the can't fit in the meetings then withdraw from the cup altogether, or perhaps stay in a league with only 7 teams in it and therefore less meetings altogether during the season would suit them better.

With a bit of luck Eastbourne will progress victorious from the second round, after all they did give Leicester a run for their money last season, and that should help Poole with their "crowded" fixture list.

[szkocjasid 2,976]

36 minutes ago, hammer1969 said:

The Championship in my opinion was a nicely run league, we now get "newcomers" to it and suddenly a word in the right ear and cup ties get changed.  The cup fixtures were sorted and advised to all, they should never have been changed just because one club found it difficult to fit in a first round meeting.   If they can't fit in the meetings then withdraw from the cup altogether, or perhaps stay in a league with only 7 teams in it and therefore less meetings altogether during the season would suit them better.

With a bit of luck Eastbourne will progress victorious from the second round, after all they did give Leicester a run for their money last season, and that should help Poole with their "crowded" fixture list.

100% agree, can't stand Poole cheating & getting what they want!

[szkocjasid 2,976]

5 hours ago, hammer1969 said:

 

So we now know the reason for Poole getting a bye after having been originally drawn to meet Newcastle in the 1st round,  the following is copied from the Poole website.

"The Poole management are keen to clarify the situation regarding the SGB Championship KO Cup draw, with their tie against the Eastbourne Eagles being confirmed as a second round tie.

Initially, the club had been drawn to face Edinburgh in the first round but trying to slot an early cup date into the club's busy start of season campaign encountered a number of logistical problems, particularly as the Pirates, back on Wednesday night racing, have to share the date with Birmingham and Somerset (together with Kent) and do not have the 'grandfather' rights over those two already established Championship clubs.  Newcastle, originally drawn with a bye to the second round, had greater flexibility in the early weeks of the season and so, rather than risk delaying the competition unnecessarily, the two promotions reached an agreement, sanctioned by the BSPA that the Diamond's  would take Poole's place in the first round. The Pirates were then subsequently drawn against Eastbourne, who along with Kent and Scunthorpe were routed into the second round.

Poole promoter Dan Ford explained "Our fixture list is pretty much very packed out in the first couple of months of the season and fitting in an early round cup tie was proving impractical. We spoke with the Newcastle promotion and reached a sensible compromise. The switch between us and Newcastle made sense on so many levels and so we jointly made the approach to the governing body to allow this to happen.

The Pirates will race the cup tie against Eastbourne on 10th June (home) and 14th June (away)."

Why not race Edinburgh on the Wednesday Somerset meet Birmingham, problem solved!