tapesuptv 4 Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) 2020 Speedway of Nations regulations Edited March 9, 2020 by unknown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,720 Posted March 9, 2020 Has the world gone mad- i quote In the following appendices, “He” is used in a non-sexist way and must be understood as “She/He”. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iwright71 206 Posted March 9, 2020 On 3/7/2020 at 8:02 AM, norbold said: I agree chunky. Speedway can be an individual sport or a team sport. In the case of the SON, it is a team sport, so why not reward the best TEAM rather than the team with the best individual rider? The individuals can show their prowess in the Grand Prix (or not). Agree, This tournament is effectively the World Team Cup and could be won by largely having one outstanding rider. Very similar to the Davis Cup in tennis which was won by Team GB with one outstanding player who contributed to all of the points won. I get that the FIM want a tournament with 6 or 7 possible winners but its not really a World Team cup anymore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grand Central 2,654 Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) Confirmation of Armando's continuing mission to make Speedway sh!ttier. It is 4-3-2-0. Edited March 9, 2020 by Grand Central 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krompa 236 Posted March 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Grand Central said: Confirmation of Armando's continuing mission to make Speedway sh!ttier. It is 4-3-2-0. Oh dear. And by the way British chances of winning this year are now limited. No extra heat if Final tied as it will be 4-5 with new scoring system. No tie and no 'one on one' extra heat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iwright71 206 Posted March 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, krompa said: Oh dear. And by the way British chances of winning this year are now limited. No extra heat if Final tied as it will be 4-5 with new scoring system. No tie and no 'one on one' extra heat. Why will it make British chances more limited of winning. Surely they will have 2 riders in the Final heat should they make it that far ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krompa 236 Posted March 9, 2020 Just now, iwright71 said: Why will it make British chances more limited of winning. Surely they will have 2 riders in the Final heat should they make it that far ? For me it's pretty simple. Woffinden winning heat 23 and extra run off in last years rules would guarantee gold. This time he needs his partner to also score any point in the final heat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iwright71 206 Posted March 9, 2020 26 minutes ago, krompa said: For me it's pretty simple. Woffinden winning heat 23 and extra run off in last years rules would guarantee gold. This time he needs his partner to also score any point in the final heat. Its probably a good thing then, since it is a team and not an individual event . 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPEEDY69 1,253 Posted March 9, 2020 15 minutes ago, iwright71 said: Its probably a good thing then, since it is a team and not an individual event . This is what I don't get. Just because it's billed as a team event doesn't mean we should reward second and third mire than first and fourth. League speedway is definitely a team event but 3-2-1 seems to work well there? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norbold 7,106 Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, SPEEDY69 said: This is what I don't get. Just because it's billed as a team event doesn't mean we should reward second and third mire than first and fourth. League speedway is definitely a team event but 3-2-1 seems to work well there? Well, yes it does. It could mean that riders two and three have actually ridden as a team to keep the fourth rider out, whereas rider one had no intention of riding as a team and just shot off for his individual win. This is a team event and that's why coming second and third is better than first and fourth. League speedway allows for a draw; the SON doesn't. Edited March 10, 2020 by norbold Typo 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted March 10, 2020 5 hours ago, norbold said: Well, yes it does. It could mean that riders two and three have actually ridden as a team to keep the fourth rider out, whereas rider one had no intention of riding as a team and just shot off for his individual win. This is a team event and that's why coming second and third is better than first and fourth. League speedway allows for a draw; the SON doesn't. They change SGP scoring, because they had to because all other disciplines have the same. Then they change team speedway rules to make it more special, since being fastest at the flag isn't important anymore (like it is in other disciplines), it's more about places 2 and 3 doing tricks to slow the 4th down to gain heat victory for the team not winning the heat. Bigger picture you see... This is all good. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPEEDY69 1,253 Posted March 10, 2020 8 hours ago, norbold said: Well, yes it does. It could mean that riders two and three have actually ridden as a team to keep the fourth rider out, whereas rider one had no intention of riding as a team and just shot off for his individual win. This is a team event and that's why coming second and third is better than first and fourth. League speedway allows for a draw; the SON doesn't. Draws are settled easily in competitions such as this, including speedway. Every rider in each race is trying to win and if they don't think they can, they can work as a team to score as many points as possible. The same happens if they are first and second. Leaders can help 3rd get to 2nd just as easily as 2nd helps 4th to 3rd. To give more points to losers is an awful idea. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted March 14, 2020 THE opening two rounds of the 2020 SON in Landshut and Latvia must be in serious doubt, probably the Final in Manchester in May 8/9 as well. Would expect the FIM to start making some decisions sooner rather than later.It is not so much the crowds but the riders travelling to and from these events. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,963 Posted March 14, 2020 At the moment there are only 26 cases in Latvia. One of the safest counties to be in I would think. Although they might not like foreigners potentially bringing it in.... and we have to believe that is an accurate figure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark 1,497 Posted March 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, iris123 said: At the moment there are only 26 cases in Latvia. One of the safest counties to be in I would think. Although they might not like foreigners potentially bringing it in.... and we have to believe that is an accurate figure they might not like Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
