iainb 4,963 Posted October 4, 2020 15 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: Where else could they have held it Germany? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted October 4, 2020 25 minutes ago, iainb said: Germany? GERMANY are not even in it ...withdrew months ago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 4,963 Posted October 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: GERMANY are not even in it ...withdrew months ago Perfect then... a neutral venue for once, to determine worthy winners 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,939 Posted October 4, 2020 17 minutes ago, iainb said: Perfect then... a neutral venue for once, to determine worthy winners Germany or a German promoter/club are hsrdly going to finance a meeting they aren’t in. Probably no promoter in any country would 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 4,963 Posted October 4, 2020 Just now, iris123 said: Germany or a German promoter/club are hsrdly going to finance a meeting they aren’t in. Probably no promoter in any country would I doubt Lublin are financing the meeting either, nobody knows the financing arrangements but I would suspect BSI/IMG are underwriting the event in order to fulfil TV contracts as they probably have with the GP series playing to less than half full houses. So why not hold it in a neutral country? How many fans are being let into sporting events in Germany? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allthegearbutnaeidea 1,734 Posted October 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, iainb said: I doubt Lublin are financing the meeting either, nobody knows the financing arrangements but I would suspect BSI/IMG are underwriting the event in order to fulfil TV contracts as they probably have with the GP series playing to less than half full houses. So why not hold it in a neutral country? How many fans are being let into sporting events in Germany? Why are you asking? Its in Lublin, virtually all of the riders are in Poland, there is quarantine restrictions everywhere, its not advantagous for the Poles. The Brits, Russians, Danes, Swedes, Aussies all ride in the same league as Lublin 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,939 Posted October 4, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, iainb said: I doubt Lublin are financing the meeting either, nobody knows the financing arrangements but I would suspect BSI/IMG are underwriting the event in order to fulfil TV contracts as they probably have with the GP series playing to less than half full houses. So why not hold it in a neutral country? How many fans are being let into sporting events in Germany? Think 1,000 for Güstrow Euro U19 meeting and 500 for Brokstedt junior meeting yesterday Edited October 4, 2020 by iris123 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 4,963 Posted October 4, 2020 1 minute ago, allthegearbutnaeidea said: Why are you asking? Its in Lublin, virtually all of the riders are in Poland, there is quarantine restrictions everywhere, its not advantagous for the Poles. The Brits, Russians, Danes, Swedes, Aussies all ride in the same league as Lublin I'm answering PHILRISING's question of where else it could have been held and I offered Germany as an alternative, as far as I know there are no travel restrictions, they are letting crowds into football events, it's just over the border from Poland and it's a neutral venue 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparks123 147 Posted October 4, 2020 3 hours ago, allthegearbutnaeidea said: Chugunov can’t represent Russia surely Have to agree. Cannot be Polish to race at reserve all season in Poland and change to Russian at the end of season to race in SON (must be illegible or would have thought he would be in the world U21's) 2 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: RATHER than the two guys won have won it twice ... Might be a thought though (Laguta was 6th in the averages and I think it's the only meeting so far this season that Emil hasn't won at least 1 race (at Lublin)). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bavarian 765 Posted October 4, 2020 3 hours ago, allthegearbutnaeidea said: Chugunov can’t represent Russia surely not so sure about that ! Chugunov has not given up his Russian nationality, he has dual-nationality now, holding two passports now, a Russian and a Polish one. Same as Emil Sayfutdinov and same as Artem Laguta ! And those two still ride for Russia ! Chugunov has so far not been chosen to represent any Polish national team. So why on earth would he not be eligible to carry on riding for his homeland Russia in the SoN ??? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
False dawn 2,294 Posted October 4, 2020 14 minutes ago, Bavarian said: not so sure about that ! Chugunov has not given up his Russian nationality, he has dual-nationality now, holding two passports now, a Russian and a Polish one. Same as Emil Sayfutdinov and same as Artem Laguta ! And those two still ride for Russia ! Chugunov has so far not been chosen to represent any Polish national team. So why on earth would he not be eligible to carry on riding for his homeland Russia in the SoN ??? I believe he's riding on a Polish licence this year to allow him into the league as a reserve. Does his licence status determine which country he can ride for rather than how many passports he has? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
screm 8,050 Posted October 4, 2020 Giving that the Government have added Poland to the quarantine list from Saturday the seeing any SON at our NSS is a non-starter, so for the reasons already highlighted it makes all kinds of sense to stage this years event in Poland. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OveFundinFan 4,138 Posted October 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Bavarian said: not so sure about that ! Chugunov has not given up his Russian nationality, he has dual-nationality now, holding two passports now, a Russian and a Polish one. Same as Emil Sayfutdinov and same as Artem Laguta ! And those two still ride for Russia ! Chugunov has so far not been chosen to represent any Polish national team. So why on earth would he not be eligible to carry on riding for his homeland Russia in the SoN ??? But he has already ridden for Russia, got a gold medal or is it two. I have a problem with sports people changing “nationality” as a matter of convenience. To dodge between one and the other is pushing too much IMO. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,939 Posted October 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, OveFundinFan said: But he has already ridden for Russia, got a gold medal or is it two. I have a problem with sports people changing “nationality” as a matter of convenience. To dodge between one and the other is pushing too much IMO. Seems similar to the young Trofimov who recently won a gold medal for Poland, having been a Ukrainian before. But it depends on the sport. Some have an automatic pause of I think 3 years when you represent one country and change to another. But basically it seems to be rife Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iwright71 206 Posted October 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Bavarian said: not so sure about that ! Chugunov has not given up his Russian nationality, he has dual-nationality now, holding two passports now, a Russian and a Polish one. Same as Emil Sayfutdinov and same as Artem Laguta ! And those two still ride for Russia ! Chugunov has so far not been chosen to represent any Polish national team. So why on earth would he not be eligible to carry on riding for his homeland Russia in the SoN ??? In the 2 SGP rounds at Wroclaw he was announced as representing Poland Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
