chunky 6,018 Posted March 11 8 hours ago, Puma23 said: Cincinati-Hamilton - 10.08.1927 Art Pechar (New Heaven) won national championship in Cincinati-Hamilton Speedway in 1927. Second was Miny Waln (Los Angeles), third was Water Stoddard (Hagerstown) and fourth was John Dudlak (Chicago). Well, this just means I have even more questions! I live in Cincinnati, and this is confusing. We did have a short-lived board-track in Sharonville (south-east of Hamilton), but that closed in 1919. Nearly all of the info I can find about "Cincinnati-Hamilton Speedway" refers to a track on the Dixie Highway - that didn't open until 1929! I have found reference to a track that supposedly opened in 1919, but I have no official name or location. Guess I'll have to dig a little deeper... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Puma23 27 Posted March 11 Hi Chunky! It is my mistake. Results are from 1930 no from 1927. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,018 Posted March 11 7 minutes ago, Puma23 said: Hi Chunky! It is my mistake. Results are from 1930 no from 1927. Ah, that makes more sense, then! Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Puma23 27 Posted March 11 (edited) 22 hours ago, chunky said: Well, I have just found some newspaper references to Wilbur Lamoreaux as the 1933 "National Champion", which does seem more likely than Ray Grant. They are all in the 'Fresno Bee'; from August 15, 1934, August 19, 1934, and October 18, 1935. Two of them also reference Miny Waln as 1932 Champ, and one mentions Cordy Milne as 1934 Champ. These tie in with the info on the 'Speedway Champions' website. Seems strange how the different resources agree on the other years, but not 1933. 1933 Emeryville Speedway - 29/11/1933 1. Wilbur Lamoreaux 2. Byrd McKinney 3. Miny Waln Jack Milne, Cordy Milne and Earl Farrand rode too. Only six riders competed. Edited March 11 by Puma23 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,018 Posted March 11 1 hour ago, Puma23 said: 1933 Emeryville Speedway - 29/11/1933 1. Wilbur Lamoreaux 2. Byrd McKinney 3. Miny Waln Jack Milne, Cordy Milne and Earl Farrand rode too. Only six riders competed. That sounds much more like it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,855 Posted March 12 (edited) 23 hours ago, Puma23 said: 1933 Emeryville Speedway - 29/11/1933 1. Wilbur Lamoreaux 2. Byrd McKinney 3. Miny Waln Jack Milne, Cordy Milne and Earl Farrand rode too. Only six riders competed. On 1/2/2020 at 5:27 PM, iris123 said: Got a report from the previous year, which confirms Lammy as champ. At this time it was points accumulated over a number of meetings Wilbur 'Lammy' Lamoreaux, lithe Frenchman from Pasadena, today holds the title as the result of a scintillating performance turned in at the seasons final meet in the Emeryville Motorcycle Speedway last night. Although Lamoreaux's riding was of the sensational variety, and he had clinched the championship before the meet had reached the half way mark, he was given plenty of competition by Byrd McKinney and Garland Johnson, the latter something of a dark horse so far as last evenings program was concerned. Ed Jones of Stockton secured the Northern California title by some consistent riding although A. Chasteen of Oakland, runner up copped a special match race. Lamoreaux climaxed a great evening of piloting to win the final scratch race, with McKinney 2nd and Miny Waln, deposed title holder, third The Milne brothers, Jack and Cordy, expected to sparkle..............and motor trouble eliminating them early forty motorcycle racers vie tomorrow In the first daylight program ever held at the Long Beach Motospeedway. Eighteen races, including both scratch and handicap events, are scheduled, with “Sprouts” Elder, world champion, and Miny Wain, national champion, heading the entries which also include Ray Grant, Bo Lisman, Cordy Milne, Lammy Lamoreaux, Earl Farrand and Rusty Roberts. Elder and Wain will hook up in several of the events in starting their race for 1933 honors. Wain will be presented with the speedway trophy he won last year by Miss Glenda Farrell, motion picture star. August 1933 September, and i am not sure if this refers to the US championship. In the paper it talks about West side championship. But to me from the earlier paper about Lammy already having the title befre the last meeting had reached half way, means it was a GP style series, which ties in with this. I also can't believe that it was just down to 6 riders. And to me it looks like Puma has misunderstood that the scratch race final was the final for the title.... BYRD M'KINNEY, who grabbed the lead in the, championship a month ago, will face Wilbur Lamoreaux, Cordy M)lne, Miny Wain and Jack Milne to-. night in the races at Loyola. Motor Races ..Due Tonight .at Loyola speedway b?gin bearing down tonight in the race for the championship of the west side racing plant. Lammy" Lamoreaux, Burton Albrecht. Cordy Milne, Jack Milne, Miny Wain and. other hot shot speedsters are all here intent on passing Byrd McKinney, Who grabbed off the lead a month ago and has held it ever since. . Tonight's big drawing card is the three-way match race doubleheader" between Cordy Milne, .Wilbur Lamoreaux and Miny Wain for the "Undisputed championship - of Southern California. Milne will Jsattle Wain for two excursions around the fast and spectacular track, with Lamourcaux challenging the winner. Edited March 12 by iris123 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Puma23 27 Posted March 12 Propably you are right iris123. I will check it tomorrow. You can check Oakland Tribune from 29th of November from 1933. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Puma23 27 Posted March 17 iris123 you are right. https://newspaperarchive.com/oakland-tribune-nov-29-1933-p-11/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,855 Posted March 17 Good to hear. I just wonder how Ray Grant got credited with the championship, especially as he was missing a good bit of the season due to injury. I wonder if he won something else ? I also came across a Mexico v California meeting. Though disappointed that the 'Mexico' team was just the US riders that had ventured down to race in Mexico, rather than any Mexican speedway riders Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,018 Posted March 17 47 minutes ago, iris123 said: Good to hear. I just wonder how Ray Grant got credited with the championship, especially as he was missing a good bit of the season due to injury. I wonder if he won something else ? Well, you know how many unofficial "World" Championships back then, so it wouldn't surprise me if we had some unofficial "US" Championships around. Plus, the history of speedway and the AMA hasn't always been that clear... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites