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Covid-19 Are we being told the truth ?

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6 minutes ago, Blupanther said:

When you have nothing to hide, put up fences and hire security...

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Isn't that to stop folk getting out?

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Another little reminder fro those with short memories...

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Comment from Dr Andrew Conway Morris an intensive care consultant. NHS facing"unprecedented demand"   many intensive care units were" full to bursting.

" So please before you share be occupancy numbers or reassure yourself that if we are not 100% full it all OK,listen to to those on front line who are telling you it is not"" 

His exact words not mine!!

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6 minutes ago, wealdstone said:

Comment from Dr Andrew Conway Morris an intensive care consultant. NHS facing"unprecedented demand"   many intensive care units were" full to bursting.

" So please before you share be occupancy numbers or reassure yourself that if we are not 100% full it all OK,listen to to those on front line who are telling you it is not"" 

His exact words not mine!!

 

He obviously works at one of the busy hospitals rather than one that is not busy at all.

As proven by the NHS’s own occupancy statistics: less than 90% overall.

For every hospital at 100% some must be at 80%!

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My son went in hospital about a month ago for a shoulder op, he said am I safe to come in cuz of covid. Yes we have a slot. Gets op done and is told will be called back to have stitches out. He catches covid from hospital and self isolates. Gets call from hospital to have stitches out but explains he's got a day left of isolating. Hospital say come straight in because stitches should have been taken out a week earlier. He goes in and is refused to be seen by consultant because he should be isolating. Son goes barmy at them so someone takes stitches out and bandage him up. He asks for exercise advice but they can't give him any because they have lost his papers. Few days later he takes bandage off and a stitch has been left in so he takes it out himself. Nice little story. There are other bits like trying to understand staff who can't speak English but I'd get shot down on that

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3 hours ago, DC2 said:

Where does diarrhoea normally come from?

Didn’t know you normally self-isolated with diarrhoea symptoms!! 

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7 minutes ago, dj350z said:

Didn’t know you normally self-isolated with diarrhoea symptoms!! 

Shouldn’t you be filling out customs forms?  :D

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24 minutes ago, Blupanther said:

Another little reminder fro those with short memories...

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Two answers to that

They're all Tory government years

Secondly the Tories don't give a monkeys about the NHS and minimise investment.

In 2009 the NHS  announced that a new local hospital would be built for us , starting in 2011. The funding was available despite the financial meltdown. Move on to 2010 and the new Tory government withdrew the funding and the hospital was cancelled .

At last they say work will start this year, not on a new hospital but updating the old building instead.

That's what you get for electing arrogant selfish clowns.

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1 hour ago, ruffdiamond said:

 

Suppose its commendable that the government/taxpayer is willing to pay out if say, the doses aren't administered 'as per' the label and things go wrong.

Thought occurs that the moving to 3 months was pre-planned, Pfizer refused to go with it, demanded immunity so taxpayer stumps up:unsure:

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8 minutes ago, jrs said:

Two answers to that

They're all Tory government years

Secondly the Tories don't give a monkeys about the NHS and minimise investment.

In 2009 the NHS  announced that a new local hospital would be built for us , starting in 2011. The funding was available despite the financial meltdown. Move on to 2010 and the new Tory government withdrew the funding and the hospital was cancelled .

At last they say work will start this year, not on a new hospital but updating the old building instead.

That's what you get for electing arrogant selfish clowns.

But how did Labour leave us after ten years in government?

Did we have more hospitals than we could ever need?

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5 minutes ago, DC2 said:

But how did Labour leave us after ten years in government?

Did we have more hospitals than we could ever need?

Three letters to quiet down any Labour criticism of Tories & the health service, deserving or not.

P.F.I.

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30 minutes ago, jrs said:

Two answers to that

They're all Tory government years

Secondly the Tories don't give a monkeys about the NHS and minimise investment.

In 2009 the NHS  announced that a new local hospital would be built for us , starting in 2011. The funding was available despite the financial meltdown. Move on to 2010 and the new Tory government withdrew the funding and the hospital was cancelled .

At last they say work will start this year, not on a new hospital but updating the old building instead.

That's what you get for electing arrogant selfish clowns.

For the record, i never voted Tory my friend...:)

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1 hour ago, DC2 said:

Sense?

How about nurses working either in Covid wards or non-Covid wards rather than flitting between the two?

How about a nurse on a shift of only 6 people testing positive following her husband having done so and then showing symptoms only 24 hours later. 

Would you assume that the rest of the nurses on that shift having spent 12 hours in close contact with her both while wearing protective equipment and without at break times would

A: Be told to isolate immediately?

B: Be told to take the 50% accurate flow tests before starting their next shift but there was no need to isolate at all?

This shift also works mostly in theatres on nights where there is always a risk of contact with covid patients because they deal with emergencies, they also then go all the way through the hospital to help out in maternity if they aren't busy or alternatively can be used as extra staff on the covid wards if needed too.

By the way the answer is B, they presume because of staff shortages but it makes anybody else isolating after short term contact with a positive asymptomatic case a complete nonsense.

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Today’s UK Hospital Covid 19 reported deaths

England  420   50668

Scotland    Not reported today   (4578)

Wales  Not reported today   (3494)

NI  Not reported today  (1322)

   

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17 minutes ago, Vince said:

How about a nurse on a shift of only 6 people testing positive following her husband having done so and then showing symptoms only 24 hours later. 

Would you assume that the rest of the nurses on that shift having spent 12 hours in close contact with her both while wearing protective equipment and without at break times would

A: Be told to isolate immediately?

B: Be told to take the 50% accurate flow tests before starting their next shift but there was no need to isolate at all?

This shift also works mostly in theatres on nights where there is always a risk of contact with covid patients because they deal with emergencies, they also then go all the way through the hospital to help out in maternity if they aren't busy or alternatively can be used as extra staff on the covid wards if needed too.

By the way the answer is B, they presume because of staff shortages but it makes anybody else isolating after short term contact with a positive asymptomatic case a complete nonsense.

 

It’s not as if the government didn’t have four clear months to prepare for the start of the flu season in October.

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