iris123 10,063 Posted January 3 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Fenway Bleachers said: However life has to be about more than just existence, fearing death and illness at every turn. The politicians shout about “staying safe” when quite simply that is impossible. The most dangerous thing we do , on a daily basis is travel, either inside a machine or as a pedestrian. We do that, because the upside justifies the action. Hiding away minimises any quality of life, to the detriment of mental well-being. There are many things that humans have no influence over....you can’t defeat a viral pandemic Boris, try stopping the rain instead. Well this is the problem. We have a precedent now and lately more and more are talking about the next even worse pandemic. If this is how we are expected to deal with a relatively minor virus, how on earth will we deal with something really infectious/deadly ? One thing is sure. There is no point appealing to peoples good nature/common sense Edited January 3 by iris123 4 1 Share this post Link to post
ruffdiamond 4,194 Posted January 3 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Fenway Bleachers said: However life has to be about more than just existence, fearing death and illness at every turn. The politicians shout about “staying safe” when quite simply that is impossible. The most dangerous thing we do , on a daily basis is travel, either inside a machine or as a pedestrian. We do that, because the upside justifies the action. Hiding away minimises any quality of life, to the detriment of mental well-being. There are many things that humans have no influence over....you can’t defeat a viral pandemic Boris, try stopping the rain instead. Edited January 3 by ruffdiamond 1 Share this post Link to post
Blupanther 13,429 Posted January 3 Just now, ruffdiamond said: Why not go one better and try and stop the world spinning, then just push it back the other way to the good old days. It might not work but might be worth a try? Careful now, Uncle Bill might be looking in. Don't go giving him any more idea's ... 1 Share this post Link to post
DC2 8,189 Posted January 3 8 minutes ago, iris123 said: Well this is the problem. We have a precedent now and lately more and more are talking about the next even worse pandemic. If this is how we are expected to deal with a relatively minor virus, how on earth will we deal with something really infectious/deadly ? One thing is sure. There is no point appealing to peoples good nature/common sense I disagree. The vast majority have behaved well. If anything has undermined the government it’s the government itself by not being honest. 6 2 1 Share this post Link to post
ruffdiamond 4,194 Posted January 3 7 minutes ago, Blupanther said: Careful now, Uncle Bill might be looking in. Don't go giving him any more idea's ... Aye, ye might be right,,, av deleted it. 1 Share this post Link to post
Vince 7,663 Posted January 3 2 hours ago, Fenway Bleachers said: I believe that is the reason for the current political decision making and inflexibility. Once the govt chose to pursue the path of lockdown and suspension of civil liberties it cannot stop. They will listen to SAGE and those egging on more restrictions, ignoring any dissent. I accept that sceptics like myself have lost that argument, we are in the minority, our opinion leaders are suppressed and the weight of public opinion is influenced not by logical thought and curiosity but by the emotion and fear. The govt egged on by SAGE and the MSM pictures last March panicked the public deliberately to change behaviour.....to save others and not to kill your granny...Those who questioned this cult were accused of not caring about killing others , being selfish and some how right wing and despotic. That is a difficult position from which to tackle the authorities. Further actions regarding masks, closing pubs and schools have been accepted by a terrorised public happy to forfeit Liberty for the mirage of safety. Pointing out the very limited effect of lockdown , the uselessness of masks and that this virus only affects to the very old and infirm is met by derision from those only able to accept the approved dictat coming from our political leaders. Surely they would not do this unless it was all necessary ? There is a way for the govt to get out of this , by rolling out vaccines, any vaccine , and altering the PCR cycles and tests. They need to ignore the scientists, drunk on power and influence and pay heed to the economic damage and lack of non COVID care to convince the public of a “ change of tack “ However too many have been damaged by this campaign of fear and will never recover, the govt cannot admit any missteps, but the current tightening of thumb screws risks civil disorder when the money tree runs dry. Quite how we got here shows that hysteria and fear can still trump logic and pragmatism. I firmly believe that gradually the number of PCR test cycles will be reduced as the vaccine is rolled out so they can 'prove' the success of a vaccination program. 11 2 Share this post Link to post
Wolfsbane 9,300 Posted January 3 One thing to consider, no matter which side of the fence you sit. They will try to eat away any savings you may have through inflation. Share this post Link to post
ruffdiamond 4,194 Posted January 3 18 minutes ago, Vince said: I firmly believe that gradually the number of PCR test cycles will be reduced as the vaccine is rolled out so they can 'prove' the success of a vaccination program. Whilst Lemsip sales fall out the back of the telly and vaccine sales go thru the roof and, Bill gets a 'bingo'. Share this post Link to post
Blupanther 13,429 Posted January 3 The magical covid virus has cured the flu ... 5 Share this post Link to post
iris123 10,063 Posted January 3 24 minutes ago, Blupanther said: The magical covid virus has cured the flu ... Wouldn’t be totally unusual though. Look at 2011/12 Share this post Link to post
Tsunami 9,466 Posted January 3 9 hours ago, The Third Man said: So you do admit that Boris is the "other liar" then More fake news, as you know the liar I was talking about is the person that has' liked' your post. Share this post Link to post
Tsunami 9,466 Posted January 3 8 hours ago, The Third Man said: Surely all you need is training to give injections, or am i looking at this from too simple a view? I don't think you have a choice. do you. 1 Share this post Link to post
Tsunami 9,466 Posted January 3 8 hours ago, steve roberts said: She thought that but apparently there are security questions one needs to respond to as well as many others? Given that a vaccinator in the USA admitted to destroying a batch of vaccine last week, it probably has tightened things up and the need for more info. Share this post Link to post
severnsider 140 Posted January 3 This seems to mention the list of documents involved https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9108019/Dentist-offered-NHS-Covid-vaccinator-slams-overload-bureaucracy.html Share this post Link to post
