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4 minutes ago, chris4gillian said:

p.s. Yesterdays death rate was the highest recorded.  We're told deaths occur (on average) around 28 days after catching Covid and yesterday was 26 days after Xmas day.

Just saying :party:

Those figures mirror the pattern of official figures in January from previous years. It has always been a bad month for winter deaths.

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32 minutes ago, chris4gillian said:

p.s. Yesterdays death rate was the highest recorded.  We're told deaths occur (on average) around 28 days after catching Covid and yesterday was 26 days after Xmas day.

Just saying :party:

“Just saying” nonsense, as usual.

Yesterday’s figure was for recorded deaths which took place over lots of different days, the highest one usually being two days before.

The 28 day figure is an interesting one, putting peak infections at 8 March in the “first wave”.

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27 minutes ago, Crumpet82 said:

Those figures mirror the pattern of official figures in January from previous years. It has always been a bad month for winter deaths.

Don’t indulge him.

He pops up out of the Dark Ages every few weeks.  :D

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1 hour ago, chris4gillian said:

p.s. Yesterdays death rate was the highest recorded.  We're told deaths occur (on average) around 28 days after catching Covid and yesterday was 26 days after Xmas day.

Just saying :party:

Not entirely sure that smiley is appropriate when talking about high numbers of deaths.....

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16 hours ago, topaz325 said:

Covid deniers protesting outside a hospital :(

 

14 hours ago, Crumpet82 said:

Where ?

I think it was a hospital in Derby.

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2 hours ago, chris4gillian said:

p.s. Yesterdays death rate was the highest recorded.  We're told deaths occur (on average) around 28 days after catching Covid and yesterday was 26 days after Xmas day.

Just saying :party:

People keep on about figures,does anyone know how many people die from flu within 28 days of having test.Think it would be higher than what covid is.Do they do a flu test for everyone?

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1 minute ago, tellboy said:

People keep on about figures,does anyone know how many people die from flu within 28 days of having test.Think it would be higher than what covid is.Do they do a flu test for everyone?

None.

Haven’t you read that we’ve found a cure for flu?

Covid.

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Seems we have a case of someone who was infected with Covid in April getting the virus a second time in December and has now died from Covid . A 72 year old from the south of Germany 

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3 hours ago, DC2 said:

You’ve posted this stat before for a previous week and it’s a worthy point to make.

I suppose sceptics will wonder how the certifying practitioner was sure it was Covid rather than pneumonia, how many of them had treated or even seen the deceased and whether there is any pressure to certify Covid as the underlying cause.

Presumably a terminal heart, cancer or dementia patient with only days to live need only be pushed over the edge by Covid and it becomes the underlying cause of death?

I don't know exactly how it works re the certificate. However we know for sure that a lot of people catch covid in hospitals and nursing homes and they are the most likely places for people to die from illness. Everybody who is ill in either place will have had a covid test so it is inevitable that the number dying within 28 days of a positive test will be high.

I'd like to know if a positive test is a good enough reason on its own to be recorded as the underlying cause?

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6 minutes ago, Vince said:

I don't know exactly how it works re the certificate. However we know for sure that a lot of people catch covid in hospitals and nursing homes and they are the most likely places for people to die from illness. Everybody who is ill in either place will have had a covid test so it is inevitable that the number dying within 28 days of a positive test will be high.

I'd like to know if a positive test is a good enough reason on its own to be recorded as the underlying cause?

That apparently was a directive in April, wasn’t it?

As was “suspected Covid” without a positive test.

Which makes a mockery of the fact that more than 80% of those with Covid symptoms in April actually tested negative.

Had they not had the test and died, or died without the doctor knowing about the test result or with him suspecting it was wrong, the doctor could well have certified them as a Covid death regardless!

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27 minutes ago, iris123 said:

Seems we have a case of someone who was infected with Covid in April getting the virus a second time in December and has now died from Covid . A 72 year old from the south of Germany 

Just one case amidst tens of thousands?

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Today’s UK Hospital Covid 19 reported deaths

England    789    64111

Scotland  89   (5557)

Wales  46  (4392)

NI   21    (1692)

Total   945    - last  Thursday 1018

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34 minutes ago, DC2 said:

Here’s a good explanation of why one dose of Pfizer is said to give 90% protection rather than the original published figure of 52%:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w3ct0pyk?xtor=ES-211-[40197_PANUK_DIV_03_NCA_icantbreathe_RET_ABC]-20210121-[bbcworldservice_howeffectiveisonedose_newscoronavirus]

Last night on the news they also said that half volume doses are under consideration. Apparently not as daft as it sounds as it has been done successfully with yellow fever vaccine.

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