Covid-19 Are we being told the truth ?

[racers and royals 6,019]

2 hours ago, racers and royals said:

Today’s UK Hospital Covid 19 reported deaths

England    993    65104

Scotland   71   (5628)

Wales  67  (4459)

NI    12   (1704)

Total   1143    - last  Friday 948

All UK Covid 19 deaths reported today- Hospital 1143  other    258   total  1401(last Friday 1280)

1st dose vaccinations 5.3 M  2nd dose 466,000

[racers and royals 6,019]

Last 16  weeks DAILY 7 DAY AVE all UK HOSPITAL AND OTHER   Covid 19 reported deaths( taken from the daily figures i quote

W/E October 4th  43  other 9 total 52

W/E October 11th 58 other 10 total 68

W/E October 18th 82  other  35 total 117

W/E October 25th 149   other  30  total  179

W/E November 1st 214  other 46 total 260

W/E November 8th 272 other  60    total 332

W/E November 15th 331 other   80    total   413

W/E November 22nd  355  other   87       total  442

W/E November 29th  357 other 103    total  460

W/E December 6th  345  other  84        total 429

W/E December 13th  332  other  88    total  420 

W/E December 20th  369 other    93    total  462

W/E December 27th 392  other   82       total  474

W/E January 3rd  478   other  126      total  604

W/E January 10th 712  other   197    total  909

W/E January 17th  876   other    243    total  1119

This week ( Mon/Fri)  958   other   386     total   1344

[DC2 8,156]

The government is saying that Covid has a 1% fatality rate.

So with 100,000 deaths, they’re saying there has been only 10 million cases.

Despite the ONS saying we have had between 650,000 and 1.2 million cases for each of the last 12 weeks, not counting the first wave!

Something’s wrong with their calculations.

[Vince 7,643]

24 minutes ago, DC2 said:

The government is saying that Covid has a 1% fatality rate.

So with 100,000 deaths, they’re saying there has been only 10 million cases.

Despite the ONS saying we have had between 650,000 and 1.2 million cases for each of the last 12 weeks, not counting the first wave!

Something’s wrong with their calculations.

That's 1% in over 60s isn't it? although they say the new strain might be as high as 1.4%.

Is there another virus that has a similar fatality rate in over 60's?

Edited January 22 by Vince

[Blupanther 13,247]

12 minutes ago, Vince said:

That's 1% in over 60s isn't it? although they say the new strain might be as high as 1.4%.

Is there another virus that has a similar fatality rate in over 60's?

There is if death from all causes is allowed on the field of play...

[DC2 8,156]

20 minutes ago, Vince said:

That's 1% in over 60s isn't it? although they say the new strain might be as high as 1.4%.

Is there another virus that has a similar fatality rate in over 60's?

Yes, I heard the “for a man in his sixties” remark and assumed he was the best example of the average case, with his risk of 1% being the same as the overall average of 1%.

Obviously it’s much higher for 80 year olds and much lower for 30 year olds.

[dave69 1,194]

23 minutes ago, Vince said:

That's 1% in over 60s isn't it? although they say the new strain might be as high as 1.4%.

Is there another virus that has a similar fatality rate in over 60's?

Not really a virus but does choking on a toasted teacake count ?

[ruffdiamond 4,174]

Teacakes should be banned, full stop.

[Leicester Hunter 341]

7 hours ago, DC2 said:

 

Would the Tories really vote to allow people to sit on their backsides?

Twelve months ago I would have said no. Now anything's possible. Let's face it, if anyone is still furloughed, 10 months down the line, they haven't got a job. They're just kicking the can further and further down the road...

[dave69 1,194]

12 minutes ago, Leicester Hunter said:

Twelve months ago I would have said no. Now anything's possible. Let's face it, if anyone is still furloughed, 10 months down the line, they haven't got a job. They're just kicking the can further and further down the road...

Yet people are still too dull to see what all these Govts. are doing.

It's all in the open and people are blind to it.Probably because it's not on Aunty Beeb or in the Daily Mirror.

[steve roberts 6,514]

15 minutes ago, Leicester Hunter said:

Twelve months ago I would have said no. Now anything's possible. Let's face it, if anyone is still furloughed, 10 months down the line, they haven't got a job. They're just kicking the can further and further down the road...

I am at the moment in my third furloughed period working within the tourism industry as I do. The attraction I work at in York is quite strong in its resilience towards adversity (having suffered catastrophic flooding five years ago) and no doubt will survive in one shape or another considering that York is very reliant on tourism as regards revenue. However it will prove very testing how the various attractions cope with all the uncertainty and no doubt some will go under.

[Wolfsbane 9,195]

7 hours ago, DC2 said:

 

Are you saying UBI would be a good thing or a bad one?

Don’t we effectively have that already with means-tested benefits?

Would the Tories really vote to allow people to sit on their backsides?

I'm guessing that's where we'll diverge.

This Government are not Tories and the agenda they're working to is not a Conservative one. Far from it.

[DC2 8,156]

1 minute ago, Wolfsbane said:

I'm guessing that's where we'll diverge.

This Government are not Tories and the agenda they're working to is not a Conservative one. Far from it.

I’m not sure what you’re warning against though.

What is it?

And how is a universal living wage involved?

[Tim G 346]

30 minutes ago, Leicester Hunter said:

Twelve months ago I would have said no. Now anything's possible. Let's face it, if anyone is still furloughed, 10 months down the line, they haven't got a job. They're just kicking the can further and further down the road...

On my second furlough and when hospitality reopens I will be back at work. My employer has already made a fair few redundant but don’t see anymore if hospitality opens around May.

I agree on some jobs they are kicking the can down the road.

[Blupanther 13,247]

2 minutes ago, DC2 said:

I’m not sure what you’re warning against though.

What is it?

And how is a universal living wage involved?

Government dependence is never a two way street, control is the name of the game. Its all laid out in plain view on the WEF website...