Covid-19 Are we being told the truth ?

[Blupanther 19,706]

MSM and Governments wouldn't lie surely...

 

[ruffdiamond 5,832]

3 hours ago, Blupanther said:

Only a few months to wait before you can get the third...

and it won't be long until you can go on a cheap holiday abroad. 

[racers and royals 7,309]

All UK Covid 19 deaths reported today  9(last Friday 17)

1st dose vaccinations  37.5 M

2nd dose 21.6 M

[racers and royals 7,309]

Last 33  weeks DAILY 7 DAY AVE all UK    Covid 19 reported deaths( taken from the daily figures i quote)

W/E October 4th     total 52

W/E October 11th   total 68

W/E October 18th    total 117

W/E October 25th total  179

W/E November  1st  total 260

W/E November 8th total  332

W/E November 15th    total   413

W/E November 22nd    total  442

W/E November 29th     total  460

W/E December 6th       total 429

W/E December 13th      total  420 

W/E December 20th      total  462

W/E December 27th        total  474

W/E January 3rd          total  604

W/E January 10th     total  909

W/E January 17th      total  1119

W/E January 24th      total  1240

W/E January  31st        total 1174

W/E February 7th      total  901

W/E February 14th      total   672

W/E February 21st      total  488

W/E February 28th       total  324

W/E March 7th        total  211

W/E March 14th           total  145

W/E March 21st    total  91

W/E March 28th         total  62

W/E April 4th       total   35 **

W/E April 11th     total 36 **     ** i think we can safely say that the figures are coming down every week- because of Easter reporting being delayed i would expect W/E 4th April to be more like 39 and W/E 11th April 32

W/E April 18th    total   26

W/E April 25th    total  23

W/E May 2nd       total  16

W/E May 9th      total   10

W/E May 16th    total   11

This week(Mon/Fri)     total  6

[topsoil 2,347]

I see some sports franchises in America are now allowing 100% capacity in sections for those who have been vaccinated, with reduced numbers, social distancing rules and masks in the leper sections.

That should get swampy and his cousins all excited.

 

 

[DC2 10,664]

2 minutes ago, topsoil said:

I see some sports franchises in America are now allowing 100% capacity in sections for those who have been vaccinated, with reduced numbers, social distancing rules and masks in the leper sections.

That should get swampy and his cousins all excited.

While presumably you are desperate for a lockdown?  

[chris4gillian 1,576]

On 5/20/2021 at 12:12 PM, DC2 said:

How do you account for the fact that I told you most deaths were on 8 April last year when Sage were saying “we don’t recognise that data”?

I was right, the “experts” were wrong.

And there have been at least 10 similar instances.

You really do believe your own hype don't you?  

[chris4gillian 1,576]

On 5/20/2021 at 12:09 PM, DC2 said:

So “Gillian” is only make believe!

That explains a lot.  

It was actually a ref. to the very hot (in the mid 90's) Gillian Anderson.  So 

[rjsj9803 212]

23 minutes ago, topsoil said:

I see some sports franchises in America are now allowing 100% capacity in sections for those who have been vaccinated, with reduced numbers, social distancing rules and masks in the leper sections.

That should get swampy and his cousins all excited.

 

 

They had 73K for Canelo v Saunders in Arlington and apparently Indy are hoping for 135K May 30th that'll be about 40% capacity.

Its getting there slowly.

[tellboy 2,906]

41 minutes ago, chris4gillian said:

It was actually a ref. to the very hot (in the mid 90's) Gillian Anderson.  So 

And still now

[DC2 10,664]

49 minutes ago, chris4gillian said:

You really do believe your own hype don't you?  

I don’t need hype.

The truth is clearly visible from comparing the government’s own statistics and statements with the facts, figures and research that I quote.

If you contested each point on a rational basis rather than one of personal enmity you might agree too, or at least have a worthwhile debate.

[topsoil 2,347]

1 hour ago, DC2 said:

While presumably you are desperate for a lockdown?  

Nope. What makes you think that? 

[dave69 1,448]

2nd jibbyjab on June 3.

[Blupanther 19,706]

Just listen to this orchestrated agenda...

 

[Halifaxtiger 5,018]

7 hours ago, Grachan said:

Surely the fact that some variant is supposedly rampant through Bolton yet only 9 people in hospital is evidence enough that people should have the vaccine.

You're not the only one who has made the mistake of believing that that quote was about Bolton - its actually about Blackburn.

East Lancashire Hospitals Trust - which has 9 patients - does not include Bolton.

According to this article  Number of patients in Bolton hospital with Covid rise again, as Indian variant spreads | The Independent there are 30 people in Bolton in hospital with Covid 19, that number having doubled in  a fortnight.

I'd still say that is a fairly low figure  (at least at the moment) given the startling number of infections, but as we know only too well there is usually a time lapse between infection and death.

7 hours ago, DC2 said:

Here’s the latest quarterly ONS survey where pre-existing conditions are mentioned on death certificates as a contributory cause:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/file?uri=/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/preexistingconditionsofpeoplewhodiedduetocovid19englandandwales/quarter12021/preexistingconditions2021q11.xlsx

87% have a pre-existing causal condition.

The way I see it, that figure - while accurate - is slightly warped by the fact that the overwhelming majority of deaths are in people aged 65 or over  who are far more likely to have some form of underlying health condition - according to this article Microsoft Word - State of Health and Care of Older People FINAL (ageuk.org.uk) nearly 50% of those aged over 65 have at least one. 

Based upon those statistics, just 1 in 10 aged over 65 who died did not have some form of causal condition. 

For those aged under 65, however, it becomes a slightly more concerning 1 in 4 (in Wales, closer to 1 in 3).

In any debate about the virus, it does seem to me that Long Covid is often overlooked. This article Long Covid: More than a million affected in February, survey suggests - BBC News indicates that over 1 million people were suffering with it in February, with the majority being aged under 50.

Edited May 21, 2021 by Halifaxtiger