Covid-19 Are we being told the truth ?

[DC2 10,664]

48 minutes ago, Halifaxtiger said:

You're not the only one who has made the mistake of believing that that quote was about Bolton - its actually about Blackburn.

East Lancashire Hospitals Trust - which has 9 patients - does not include Bolton.

According to this article  Number of patients in Bolton hospital with Covid rise again, as Indian variant spreads | The Independent there are 30 people in Bolton in hospital with Covid 19, that number having doubled in  a fortnight.

I'd still say that is a fairly low figure  (at least at the moment) given the startling number of infections, but as we know only too well there is usually a time lapse between infection and death.

The way I see it, that figure - while accurate - is slightly warped by the fact that the overwhelming majority of deaths are in people aged 65 or over  who are far more likely to have some form of underlying health condition - according to this article Microsoft Word - State of Health and Care of Older People FINAL (ageuk.org.uk) nearly 50% of those aged over 65 have at least one. 

Based upon those statistics, just 1 in 10 aged over 65 who died did not have some form of causal condition. 

For those aged under 65, however, it becomes a slightly more concerning 1 in 4 (in Wales, closer to 1 in 3).

In any debate about the virus, it does seem to me that Long Covid is often overlooked. This article Long Covid: More than a million affected in February, survey suggests - BBC News indicates that over 1 million people were suffering with it in February, with the majority being aged under 50.

Firstly, the pre-existing condition has to be referred to on the death certificate as a cause of death, not just merely an existing illness (which would not appear on the death certificate).

Secondly, being very fat, as opposed to clinically obese, is unlikely to be cited on a death certificate despite it being instrumental in under 65s, so in effect it is a pre-existing condition.

Thirdly, Long Covid must surely be called that solely because the list of symptoms is so long as to cover almost anything!

It doesn’t even have to last any longer than a day (after 28 days from one’s positive test) so “Long” it doesn’t necessarily need to be!

[iris123 14,410]

[Wolfsbane 12,256]

Ignore the top one.

 

[stevehone 2,788]

First time I’ve seen this ...

 

 

[steve roberts 7,553]

9 hours ago, Wolfsbane said:

Ignore the top one.

 

Do you mind...I'm about to have my breakfast!

[Wolfsbane 12,256]

[DC2 10,664]

Want to visit Spain? No tests, no quarantine... pass the sangria. 

Want to come home afterwards? Three tests, costing hundreds of pounds, and a 10-day quarantine.

Spain's leaders have the same information as Britain's.

But Britain has Sage.  

[jrs 2,600]

3 minutes ago, DC2 said:

But Britain has Sage.  

Yeah, but all we've got is DC2   

[DC2 10,664]

The government’s unethical use of scaremongering.

“On 6 January a group of 46 psychologists and therapists, including several HART members, signed a letter to the British Psychological Society (BPS) raising ethical questions about the role of Government-employed psychologists in shaping the coronavirus communication campaign. In particular, they were concerned about their promotion of covert psychological ‘nudges’ — including ratcheting up fear levels — as a means of achieving widespread conformity with unprecedented lockdowns and mask mandates. As the UK body responsible for the ethical use of psychology, they expected the BPS to give our questions serious consideration. Regrettably, their response was dismissive, stating that they were ‘incredibly proud’ of the works done by psychologists during the pandemic. Nineteen weeks on, our letter has yet to be addressed by the BPS ethics committee. However, the revelations contained in a new book, A State of Fear by Laura Dodsworth, may vindicate our concerns and jolt the BPS out of its complacency.

Dodsworth has conducted the investigative journalism that her mainstream media counterparts manifestly failed to do. She managed to interview several members of the ‘Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group on Behaviour’ (SPI-B), the subgroup of SAGE that advises government about its COVID-19 communication strategy, to ask about the way that fear has been exploited throughout the crisis. One anonymous member of SPI-B said, ‘The way we have used fear is dystopian … The use of fear has definitely been ethically questionable. It’s been like a weird experiment. Ultimately, it backfired because people became too scared’. Gavin Morgan — an educational psychologist and another SPI-B member — agreed, stating that, ‘they went overboard with the scary message to get compliance’. An independent scientific advisor in Whitehall was more blunt, expressing surprise at the ‘weaponisation’ of behavioural psychology and telling Dodsworth that, ‘the psychologists didn’t seem to notice when it stopped being altruistic and became manipulative’.

https://www.hartgroup.org/behavioural-psychology/

 

[Vincent Blachshadow 2,322]

14 minutes ago, DC2 said:

Want to visit Spain? No tests, no quarantine... pass the sangria. 

Want to come home afterwards? Three tests, costing hundreds of pounds, and a 10-day quarantine.

Spain's leaders have the same information as Britain's.

But Britain has Sage.  

They also have empty hotels, empty beaches, towel-less sunbeds that they need to fill.

[Blupanther 19,393]

Not the first doctor or virologist to talk about this...

 

[Blupanther 19,393]

The Yorkshire variant has been isolated...

[iris123 14,410]

38 minutes ago, DC2 said:

Want to visit Spain? No tests, no quarantine... pass the sangria. 

Want to come home afterwards? Three tests, costing hundreds of pounds, and a 10-day quarantine.

Spain's leaders have the same information as Britain's.

But Britain has Sage.  

Want to visit Germany ? Forget it 

[DC2 10,664]

23 minutes ago, Vincent Blachshadow said:

They also have empty hotels, empty beaches, towel-less sunbeds that they need to fill.

Well, I’ve booked my flight.  

[iris123 14,410]

30 minutes ago, Blupanther said:

Not the first doctor or virologist to talk about this...

 

Anyone can talk about something, even the earth being flat, but it doesn’t make it true. You need evidence to back it up. Has he or you got any ?

https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/can-the-flu-shot-hurt-my-immune-response