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7 minutes ago, DC2 said:

Nothing to do with “people”; it was the useless NHS system.

 

 

it's all to do with 'people' :blink:

As Grachan said a week or so ago. Maybe the people in Sweden can be trusted to act responsibly. The citizens of the UK and even Germany were asked at first and ignored the plea and then along came a lockdown. In the UK's case at least it seemed necessary. In Germany's case at least it seemed to work, then things were relaxed back to normal for the summer and it all seemed to go wrong after that 

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4 minutes ago, iris123 said:

it's all to do with 'people' :blink:

As Grachan said a week or so ago. Maybe the people in Sweden can be trusted to act responsibly. The citizens of the UK and even Germany were asked at first and ignored the plea and then along came a lockdown. In the UK's case at least it seemed necessary. In Germany's case at least it seemed to work, then things were relaxed back to normal for the summer and it all seemed to go wrong after that 

The girl was told by NHS 111 to go to A&E.  It wasn’t her fault that A&E didn’t have a separate Covid Only waiting room.

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Now you are getting it.

Ireland should reach their vaccine target in the next month..... :rolleyes:

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Exactly...

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5 hours ago, waiheke1 said:

The issue of course is that people can unknowingly transmit, so certain actions are needed to protect the vulnerable.

Not suggesting a never ending lockdown  but there are "easy wins" that people can consciously do - mandatory mask wearing on public transport, people choosing to get vaccinated, extending ability to WFH for jobs this is suitable, continued tracing, etc. 

 

But if the vulnerable are vaccinated everything else should become unnecessary, we are told they will no longer die and that means there are far more health issues that need prioritising ahead of Covid.

The unknowing transmission (apart from those just before they show symptoms) is open to debate as is mask wearing while tracing as applied in the UK has to be the right up there among the top governmental wastes of money of all time. 

My priority would be to get the waiting lists down for treatments that are far more likely to result in early death than covid closely followed by returning everything to normal so we can start paying for this mess.

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:D

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:rofl:

 

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The Convid insanity is creating some strange bedfellows, but best of all it is uniting humanity...

 

 

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This shop in London is where irony goes to die...

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48 minutes ago, iris123 said:

Now you are getting it.

Ireland should reach their vaccine target in the next month..... :rolleyes:

Well the  UK  is  now  at  80%  double  jibby jabbed. 

What`s  our  target  ??

Saddam Johnston now  planning  the  assault  of  12-15  year olds  (against the  science) to protect his  a55  against the  teaching unions, for the  mythical  greater  good. All  this  to  stop  schools  being  closed, which of  course  he  can  do, if only  Carrie  did  not have his  cajones  locked  in her  safe. 

Mandatory  vaccination  coming  next; , care homes, NHS  , schools, public  servants.......everyone.  Will  Nicola  Stalin  announce it first  ??

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2 minutes ago, Fenway Bleachers said:

Well the  UK  is  now  at  80%  double  jibby jabbed. 

What`s  our  target  ??

Saddam Johnston now  planning  the  assault  of  12-15  year olds  (against the  science) to protect his  a55  against the  teaching unions, for the  mythical  greater  good. All  this  to  stop  schools  being  closed, which of  course  he  can  do, if only  Carrie  did  not have his  cajones  locked  in her  safe. 

Mandatory  vaccination  coming  next; , care homes, NHS  , schools, public  servants.......everyone.  Will  Nicola  Stalin  announce it first  ??

Well that is also one of the problems

 I am fairly certain one expert early doors here said on tv 60% herd immunity was needed. But tbh I think he was just guessing so early on, as the WHO had for months something about it not being sure what % was needed

Then all of a sudden here they were talking about 85+% being needed. So I was surprised to see it stated a few weeks back from the US that a 70% rate was needed. This seems to be what Denmark have taken as their safe limit and Ireland seem to be following that as well. Whereas Germany are it seems going for a much higher %

As for the youngsters, something similar has been playing out here. The medical advice was that youngsters weren't generally in danger and the vaccine was better used elsewhere. The politicians though seemed to be of a different opinion. But this morning I did hear that millions of doses will be donated to third world countries. So maybe they were doses that were being held back for yungsters. TBh I am not sure of the current situation.......:D

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I  would  guess that  over  90%  of  UK  citizens  if  tested  have  some  antibodies.  Granted  natural immunity is  best and  lasting , that  from the  vaccines  less  so, and  maybe  time  limited. Corona  vaccines  have  been  that  way  clinically whenever  used. Maybe  big pharma  sold the  govt a  false  promise  as  to  their  effectiveness  this  time, but the  politicians  were  desperate  for  anything they could  sell  to a petrified  public. 

Around  1/3  under  40s  have  not  been  jabbed so far. I  would  guess many have had  it, don`t see it as  a threat to  health, and  are  not  keen to be  compelled  to take  something to  stop them getting "a cold". The  cardiac issue  for  young  men, and  their  natural  pigheadedness  for  not  being  told  what to  do  , all  behind  that figure. 

Now  that the  politicians  are  beginning to  ignore  "the  science"  lets  see what  other  bribes they will  introduce  to coerce  , before  all  indoor  arenas  bigger  than a phone  box  become  vaxports  only. Whilst the  majority  comply  , for  many different  reasons, the  tyranny  will  ratchet  up. 

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