Covid-19 Are we being told the truth ?

[iris123 14,842]

3 minutes ago, DC2 said:

So the reason Sweden bettered lockdowned UK were:

London being more densely populated than Stockholm - is it?

the UK government failing to restrict tourists coming into the country, despite the fact that most restricted themselves anyway by not coming;

the government failing to impose a lockdown that did not sufficiently stop commuting, despite asking people to work from home?

Are they just personal notions or do you have some evidence in support?

They are purely my assumptions, since most of your stuff is purely your guess work

[DC2 10,664]

7 minutes ago, iris123 said:

They are purely my assumptions, since most of your stuff is purely your guess work

Oh dear, you’re sounding like Chris4G now!  

Both overlooking the fact that I usually produce government figures (ONS, PHE etc) in support of my “guess work”.

Have you got any government figures to support your “assumptions”?

If lockdowns are so good we should have trounced Sweden.

You do touch on one good point: that other Scandinavian countries had success by closing borders early.

Edited September 25, 2021 by DC2

[Wolfsbane 12,409]

So can the 'believers' suggest who makes up the other 2 thirds?

 

[DC2 10,664]

31 minutes ago, Wolfsbane said:

So can the 'believers' suggest who makes up the other 2 thirds?

 

From that:

“Nearly 13% of hospital patients with confirmed Covid were unvaccinated.”

So 87% of hospitalisations were vaccinated.

Not really compelling, is it?

[DC2 10,664]

59 minutes ago, DC2 said:

Oh dear, you’re sounding like Chris4G now!  

Both overlooking the fact that I usually produce government figures (ONS, PHE etc) in support of my “guess work”.

Have you got any government figures to support your “assumptions”?

If lockdowns are so good we should have trounced Sweden.

You do touch on one good point: that other Scandinavian countries had success by closing borders early.

Thought Iris might have countered with reasoning and figures, but I got a Tsunami gormless grin.  

[Blupanther 19,679]

Italy returns to their fascist past...

 

 

[iris123 14,842]

Kentucky

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/judge-upholds-kentucky-hospitals-vaccine-mandate-cites-scotus-smallpox-ruling-1905-1632743%3famp=1

[King Jamie 174]

On 9/21/2021 at 3:53 PM, chris4gillian said:

The point is, you could be considered rude and/or offensive to some the way you worded things....but I'm sure you don't care about things like that.

Why could it "be considered rude and/or offensive" to call someone fat?

Personally, I'm skinny. Always have been and probably always will be. I've had some names over the years. 'X-ray', 'skeleton', 'twig', etc, but that's fair enough. Not a problem to me. Sticks and stones and all that. Besides, I am a twig so it's a pretty fair description.

Likewise, if someone is fat, what does it matter if they are described as being so?

Grow up and deal with it. There are far bigger things in life to bother about.

[chris4gillian 1,576]

8 hours ago, Crumpet88 said:

In 24 hours, the UK government and msm have scared the population into emptying fuel stations. Imagine what else they’ve been able to scare people into doing over the past 18 months.

No they haven't, the UK government have said constantly that there is no reason to panic buy fuel !!!!!!!!!!!  Completely and utterly wrong, again.

Edited September 25, 2021 by chris4gillian

[Blupanther 19,679]

Influenza cases in the US. How strange...

2012- 34million. 2013- 30million. 2014- 30million. 2015- 24million. 2016- 29million. 2017- 45million. 2018- 36million. 2019- 38million. 2020- 1,822.

It's almost as if it was given another name...

[iris123 14,842]

43 minutes ago, Blupanther said:

Influenza cases in the US. How strange...

2012- 34million. 2013- 30million. 2014- 30million. 2015- 24million. 2016- 29million. 2017- 45million. 2018- 36million. 2019- 38million. 2020- 1,822.

It's almost as if it was given another name...

Been done quite a bit

Of course it also makes it difficult to predict what flu might be circulating this season and getting the vaccine right

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/flu-has-disappeared-worldwide-during-the-covid-pandemic1/

[DC2 10,664]

9 hours ago, King Jamie said:

Why could it "be considered rude and/or offensive" to call someone fat?

Personally, I'm skinny. Always have been and probably always will be. I've had some names over the years. 'X-ray', 'skeleton', 'twig', etc, but that's fair enough. Not a problem to me. Sticks and stones and all that. Besides, I am a twig so it's a pretty fair description.

Likewise, if someone is fat, what does it matter if they are described as being so?

Grow up and deal with it. There are far bigger things in life to bother about.

Absolutely.

Fat is a fact not a derogatory term in a discussion about medical risk.

If being skinny were associated with Covid fatalities I would refer to being skinny rather than being fat.

But some Covid hystericals want to pretend that being fat isn’t a risk factor so they can claim such people are an example of “healthy” people dying from Covid.

[The Third Man 1,914]

9 hours ago, King Jamie said:

Why could it "be considered rude and/or offensive" to call someone fat?

Personally, I'm skinny. Always have been and probably always will be. I've had some names over the years. 'X-ray', 'skeleton', 'twig', etc, but that's fair enough. Not a problem to me. Sticks and stones and all that. Besides, I am a twig so it's a pretty fair description.

Likewise, if someone is fat, what does it matter if they are described as being so?

Grow up and deal with it. There are far bigger things in life to bother about.

i am overweight, not a lot, but if someone says that, they are not telling me something i do not know myself, why would i take exception to that

Edited September 26, 2021 by The Third Man

[iris123 14,842]

Just a quicky 

Because of the elections today we have started those result Programmes and the polls. One from Berlin asked what was the most important issue

Covid was down at 7th spot behind Housing which was by far the main one, with traffic, climate and crime a few of those more important 

Only the little group on here keep letting it spoil their day/ bed

[Blupanther 19,679]

Climate…