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1 hour ago, BWitcher said:

Older patient, in and out of hospital, sounds like was on last legs with or without coronavirus.

Yeah! Bloody bed blocker! 

Ps. Everybody else, I'm being ironic

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17,000 a year, on average, die from flu in England. Yeah. Whatever. Who cares?

1 already frail person dies in Reading after testing positive for covid-19 and you can't get bog roll any more.

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26 minutes ago, Grachan said:

17,000 a year, on average, die from flu in England. Yeah. Whatever. Who cares?

1 already frail person dies in Reading after testing positive for covid-19 and you can't get bog roll any more.

When you say 17,000 of course you actually mean 600

https://vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vk/influenza-flu

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2 minutes ago, iainb said:

When you say 17,000 of course you actually mean 600

https://vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vk/influenza-flu

600 v 1... hmm.. 

As ever, the gullible minorities get wound up by the media and governments are forced to act to appease them.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1233679/coronavirus-update-symptoms-flu-2020-china-flu-deaths

 

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5 hours ago, iainb said:

When you say 17,000 of course you actually mean 600

https://vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vk/influenza-flu

Depends where you look, I guess.

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-02-06/how-does-the-wuhan-coronavirus-compare-to-seasonal-flu/

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From a government report into flu vaccines :Since 2003, 860 cases of avian influenza A(H5N1) have been reported including 454 deaths, giving an overall case fatality rate of 53%. Cases have been reported from 16 countries. From 01 January 2018 to 09 April 2019, no futher cases have been reported.

Looking at the fatality rate you have to wonder why we are arguing about whether it is 1% or 3% for the current outbreak. Remember bird flu was just as big a thing in the press a few years back as coronavirus is now.

https://vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vk/influenza-flu would seem to be a reputable source.

Average of 600 people die annually in the UK from flu complications however there have been two recent winters where it has been well over 10,000. The latest bad winter of 2013 - 2014 had 11,000 deaths and it has to be remembered that this is against a background of the most vulnerable being vaccinated. The estimate of 250,000 to 500,000 deaths because of flu worldwide each year puts the current situation into some sort of perspective though in my opinion.

I'm still not going to stay indoors, wear a mask or avoid people. If any good comes of this perhaps it will make all those minty buggers who leave the toilet without washing their hands change their ways!

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8 minutes ago, Vince said:

From a government report into flu vaccines :Since 2003, 860 cases of avian influenza A(H5N1) have been reported including 454 deaths, giving an overall case fatality rate of 53%. Cases have been reported from 16 countries. From 01 January 2018 to 09 April 2019, no futher cases have been reported.

Looking at the fatality rate you have to wonder why we are arguing about whether it is 1% or 3% for the current outbreak. Remember bird flu was just as big a thing in the press a few years back as coronavirus is now.

https://vk.ovg.ox.ac.uk/vk/influenza-flu would seem to be a reputable source.

Average of 600 people die annually in the UK from flu complications however there have been two recent winters where it has been well over 10,000. The latest bad winter of 2013 - 2014 had 11,000 deaths and it has to be remembered that this is against a background of the most vulnerable being vaccinated. The estimate of 250,000 to 500,000 deaths because of flu worldwide each year puts the current situation into some sort of perspective though in my opinion.

I'm still not going to stay indoors, wear a mask or avoid people. If any good comes of this perhaps it will make all those minty buggers who leave the toilet without washing their hands change their ways!

Absolutely!

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As we're constantly being told to wash our hands with an alcohol based hand sanitiser if we want to help avoid what is, for a person of average health, a bad cold, wouldn't it be useful to line our insides with alcohol as well? Willing to volunteer if any research into this is happening

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1 minute ago, Marksman said:

Just read about the Premier League considering a ban on over 70's at matches - https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-sports-bosses-and-broadcasters-summoned-to-discuss-contingency-plans-11951225

Couldn't possibly do the same in Speedway, tracks would be closing down within a month :rofl:

Certainly  eradicate the BB prob at Peterborough

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I wonder if he's changed his mind ?

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