iainb 4,962 Posted March 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Blupanther said: Influenza can lead to thousands of deaths a year. The World Health Organisation estimates that an average of up to 500,000 people die annually across the globe due to the flu. In 2008-2009 there were 13,000 deaths in the UK alone related to the flu. The coronavirus is not nearly as deadly as the common flu, which experts have warned should still take priority in the medical battle... Somebody better tell every government around the world this then, they'll then realise the error of their ways Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenga 2,998 Posted March 15, 2020 worker @ B.N.F.L. (SELLAFIELD) tests + for coronavirus . for those who dont have a map or have been living in a bubble for decades , its near Whitehaven on the West coast .we are not safe . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted March 15, 2020 1 minute ago, cityrebel said: I understand that, but we have never had a potential lockdown in my lifetime. That's what scares people, hence all of the panic buying. You've never had the media screaming about it either. And that's the point.. it's not the virus that is scary... its the panic caused by the media.. that panic causes places organisations to act.. Then politics comes into play and the opposition in countries uses it to their advantage and whips up people and criticises governments for inaction... so they're forced to act. The UK has actually been the strongest government in trying not to bow to this pressure... but as organisations around them such as the Premier League cave in, it leaves them out on their own and will soon be forced to do the same. The collateral damage from all of this panic is going to be massive... the damage from the virus, very very minor indeed (on a world scale). 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted March 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, jenga said: worker @ B.N.F.L. (SELLAFIELD) tests + for coronavirus . for those who dont have a map or have been living in a bubble for decades , its near Whitehaven on the West coast .we are not safe . and THIS is precisely the problem. "We are not safe". Give it a rest. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BluTiger 21,661 Posted March 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, cityrebel said: I understand that, but we have never had a potential lockdown in my lifetime. That's what scares people, hence all of the panic buying. People need to turn off their TV sets, fear porn is very addictive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 4,962 Posted March 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, BWitcher said: You've never had the media screaming about it either. And that's the point.. it's not the virus that is scary... its the panic caused by the media.. that panic causes places organisations to act.. Then politics comes into play and the opposition in countries uses it to their advantage and whips up people and criticises governments for inaction... so they're forced to act. The UK has actually been the strongest government in trying not to bow to this pressure... but as organisations around them such as the Premier League cave in, it leaves them out on their own and will soon be forced to do the same. The collateral damage from all of this panic is going to be massive... the damage from the virus, very very minor indeed (on a world scale). You should stop reading the Daily Express and watching ITV then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted March 15, 2020 40 minutes ago, iainb said: You should stop reading the Daily Express and watching ITV then What are you talking about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,938 Posted March 15, 2020 2 hours ago, lastword said: And are these oldies the same oldies who are expected to care for grand-kids when the government closes the schools? No.Hasn't it been said enough times, you shouldn't pack the children off to the grandparents ? I have heard it said a number of times. Maybe it is only in Germany they are giving out good advice though. I can't always remember which source or country have given out certain advice All I can say, is that here they have closed schools but have emergency places open so you can take your children there. It is no good closing schools and then having emergency workers having to stay home to look after children. They are supposed to only be used for emergencies though and not every tom,dick and harry dropping their children off. At the same time, they are legally obliged to take in children if the parents insist Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mimmo 1,070 Posted March 15, 2020 5 hours ago, woodenspoon said: If as the government have proposed, that they may bring in, that all over 70s must self isolate, which could be possibly for months, will definitely affect speedway crowds, that is if speedway is on. I wonder how they will impose this self isolation, and what will happen to the many elderly who don't agree to this isolation, which is draconian. It'll mean some promoters have got to isolate too, so how will that work as well. At 76-years of age, I'm the youngest person living in my immediate area, and if I've got to self isolate, how do I get thing like milk and bread to keep me going??? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,938 Posted March 15, 2020 5 hours ago, woodenspoon said: If as the government have proposed, that they may bring in, that all over 70s must self isolate, which could be possibly for months, will definitely affect speedway crowds, that is if speedway is on. I wonder how they will impose this self isolation, and what will happen to the many elderly who don't agree to this isolation, which is draconian. Not sure which country it was, but people will be fined and possibly imprisoned if they ignore. Maybe the UK goes down that route maybe not. But I imagine like a lot of these things like not feeding the birds and attracting rats, very few people get fined and even less imprisoned.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted March 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, iris123 said: No.Hasn't it been said enough times, you shouldn't pack the children off to the grandparents ? I have heard it said a number of times. Maybe it is only in Germany they are giving out good advice though. I can't always remember which source or country have given out certain advice All I can say, is that here they have closed schools but have emergency places open so you can take your children there. It is no good closing schools and then having emergency workers having to stay home to look after children. They are supposed to only be used for emergencies though and not every tom,dick and harry dropping their children off. At the same time, they are legally obliged to take in children if the parents insist For many Iris, they wouldn't have any other choice. What's the point of closing schools, then just sticking the children in another location, all together still anyway? Not an attack, just wondering what the rationale is. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GWC 495 Posted March 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, Mimmo said: It'll mean some promoters have got to isolate too, so how will that work as well. At 76-years of age, I'm the youngest person living in my immediate area, and if I've got to self isolate, how do I get thing like milk and bread to keep me going??? Lots of areas are setting up residential care systems to look out for aged residence. If you are in an area of aged people then it’s likely you will be contacted. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrs 3,290 Posted March 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mimmo said: It'll mean some promoters have got to isolate too, so how will that work as well. At 76-years of age, I'm the youngest person living in my immediate area, and if I've got to self isolate, how do I get thing like milk and bread to keep me going??? We go back to the old efficient days of it being delivered by horse drawn van, same way as they delivered beer and pop in my youth. And you even get free manure for your gardens if you follow the horse for long enough. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YerRopes 3,009 Posted March 15, 2020 Such a move will impact enormously on the volunteering sector.. Many good people of retirement age and above freely contribute to the good of their local communities. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,938 Posted March 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, Mimmo said: It'll mean some promoters have got to isolate too, so how will that work as well. At 76-years of age, I'm the youngest person living in my immediate area, and if I've got to self isolate, how do I get thing like milk and bread to keep me going??? Online shopping ? Supermarkets deliver to your door here at least My ex-girlfriends father is also nearly 80 and has a psychological problem with being around a lot of people which means he has trouble shopping. So has for years had most things delivered to his flat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites