BluPanther 21,637 Posted April 26, 2020 Just now, HGould said: If you think hospitals are ready to deal with unnecessary sporting injuries you are definitely living in a parallel universe. A + E are dealing primarily with Coronovirus, those not are seeing reduce traffic as no one unless critically ill will risk going to A + E in case they catch the virus. I doubt many riders would take the risk right now. I'm even more sure that majority of supporters would risk going to speedway right now or feel it right to do so. 3 - 4 months away at least. Someone has been watching too much MSM and drunk their kool aid BS. The best way to control people is to keep them afraid, you certainly prove that point ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted April 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, HGould said: If you think hospitals are ready to deal with unnecessary sporting injuries you are definitely living in a parallel universe. A + E are dealing primarily with Coronovirus, those not are seeing reduce traffic as no one unless critically ill will risk going to A + E in case they catch the virus. I doubt many riders would take the risk right now. I'm even more sure that majority of supporters would risk going to speedway right now or feel it right to do so. 3 - 4 months away at least. What risk would the riders be taking? I wasn't aware we had many 65+ aged riders. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HGould 2,200 Posted April 26, 2020 Just now, BWitcher said: What risk would the riders be taking? I wasn't aware we had many 65+ aged riders. Go check the number of fit under 50's dying and show some respect! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted April 26, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, HGould said: Go check the number of fit under 50's dying and show some respect! I already have. Now go check it against the number of under 50's dying from other things and learn some context. If you're under 50 and healthy you have more chance of being killed in a car crash than dying from Covid-19. It's nothing to do with 'respect'.. it's to do with reality. Edited April 26, 2020 by BWitcher 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HGould 2,200 Posted April 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, Blupanther said: Someone has been watching too much MSM and drunk their kool aid BS. The best way to control people is to keep them afraid, you certainly prove that point ... I hope you don't lose family or friends like I have. Maybe if you had you'd not be so arrogant and have some respect? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted April 26, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, HGould said: I hope you don't lose family or friends like I have. Maybe if you had you'd not be so arrogant and have some respect? That has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation at all. You've made claims that are false, been shown to be wrong and are now trotting out nonsense. No disrespect is being shown to anyone who dies, death is always tragic, whatever the circumstances. Sorry to hear of any loss you have had. Edited April 26, 2020 by BWitcher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BluPanther 21,637 Posted April 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, HGould said: I hope you don't lose family or friends like I have. Maybe if you had you'd not be so arrogant and have some respect? Sorry for your loss, but it helps if your comments are fueled by facts, rather than emotion... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted April 26, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, HGould said: Go check the number of fit under 50's dying and show some respect! About 300 out of 20,000 hospital deaths. Actually, that’s under 65s so I doubt it’s more than 100 under 50. Edited April 26, 2020 by DC2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted April 26, 2020 1 hour ago, DC2 said: About 300 out of 20,000 hospital deaths. Actually, that’s under 65s so I doubt it’s more than 100 under 50. And even less when you add in 'fit'.. i.e. no serious underlying condition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted April 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, BWitcher said: And even less when you add in 'fit'.. i.e. no serious underlying condition. The 300 is under 60 without underlying conditions. The total under 60 including underlying conditions is 1,623. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted April 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, DC2 said: The 300 is under 60 without underlying conditions. The total under 60 including underlying conditions is 1,623. Fair point.. but even less Under 50 as you say.. and given most speedway riders are under 40, even less still. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arch Stanton 2,232 Posted April 27, 2020 Interesting thread, well worth a read. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Arch Stanton said: Interesting thread, well worth a read. Very poor actually, very one dimensional, seems to be trying to insinuate that every excess death is Covid-19 when clearly that is not the case. The majority of them are Covid-19. Some recorded as Covid are not Covid. Some countries won't be revealing their true Covid figures There will be many excess deaths caused by lockdown that aren't Covid related. Edited April 27, 2020 by BWitcher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skodaman 192 Posted April 27, 2020 2 hours ago, BWitcher said: Very poor actually, very one dimensional, seems to be trying to insinuate that every excess death is Covid-19 when clearly that is not the case. The majority of them are Covid-19. Some recorded as Covid are not Covid. Some countries won't be revealing their true Covid figures There will be many excess deaths caused by lockdown that aren't Covid related. We should be loking at new cases not deaths to give us an idea of the way the lockdown is working! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites