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3 hours ago, DSC67 said:

And they will probably be the first to complain when or if we move to full lockdown 

It will be WHEN they call a full lockdown...….I think next weekend.

 

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13 hours ago, steve roberts said:

I was at Bridlington yesterday and there were many people exercising their dogs on the beach...I guess walking the dog will be very much more restrained from now on. Not sure how I'll be able to exercise my friend's dog now. Life has just turned upside down. I will certainly be curtailing my movements from now on but the dreaded food shop is still on the agenda and I ain't looking forward to it.

Trouble is having watched the news it's the usual thing...many people basicallly raising a thumb to their nose snubbiing any advice given and spoiling it for the rest of us.

So you were out at the seaside and are now complaining about others at the seaside...

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4 minutes ago, phillipsr said:

So you were out at the seaside and are now complaining about others at the seaside...

Sat in the car overlooking the sea with a picnic self isolating...however won't be returning anytime soon now that the advice has been stepped up.

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13 hours ago, steve roberts said:

I was at Bridlington yesterday and there were many people exercising their dogs on the beach...I guess walking the dog will be very much more restrained from now on. Not sure how I'll be able to exercise my friend's dog now. Life has just turned upside down. I will certainly be curtailing my movements from now on but the dreaded food shop is still on the agenda and I ain't looking forward to it.

 

All depends on what Boris has planned. If it is like here in Germany then there are certain exceptions, such as just going out for a walk or walking the dog or helping someone who can't go out. So you helping someone out with their dog would fall into two categories there.

I wonder if Boris is looking at an exception for the great crumpet hunt ?:rofl:

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1 hour ago, iris123 said:

All depends on what Boris has planned. If it is like here in Germany then there are certain exceptions, such as just going out for a walk or walking the dog or helping someone who can't go out. So you helping someone out with their dog would fall into two categories there.

I wonder if Boris is looking at an exception for the great crumpet hunt ?:rofl:

I got lucky yesterday! Aldi had plenty, but I hadn't seen them for over a week! I only bought the one pack. 

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2 hours ago, Ray Stadia said:

I got lucky yesterday! Aldi had plenty, but I hadn't seen them for over a week! I only bought the one pack. 

I managed the one packet at a local store yesterday...the great crumpet hunt continues!

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18 hours ago, iainb said:

They were probably telling each other that the flu kills more people every year!

It does, you imbecile.

Staggering you have such little regard for 250,000 to 600,000 people losing their lives.

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4 hours ago, BWitcher said:

It does, you imbecile.

Staggering you have such little regard for 250,000 to 600,000 people losing their lives.

Dude, seriously, have a word with yourself. Normally i agree with you, or at least your logic, but no need for name calling, especially when you are deliberately misrepresenting his point. 

I know several health professionals, from ground level to senior strategic  all say one of the big issues is people comparing to the flu.

Corona is more contagious, has no vaccine, higher morality rate, higher rate of serious cases. There's a good reason governments are imposing lockdowns, despite the impact doing so has on their economies - and that's advice from health experts, not due to the media. 

No one is down playing the annual deaths from flu. But this new virus has potential to cause far more. 

Stay safe, stay well all. 

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25 minutes ago, waiheke1 said:

Dude, seriously, have a word with yourself. Normally i agree with you, or at least your logic, but no need for name calling, especially when you are deliberately misrepresenting his point. 

I know several health professionals, from ground level to senior strategic  all say one of the big issues is people comparing to the flu.

Corona is more contagious, has no vaccine, higher morality rate, higher rate of serious cases. There's a good reason governments are imposing lockdowns, despite the impact doing so has on their economies - and that's advice from health experts, not due to the media. 

No one is down playing the annual deaths from flu. But this new virus has potential to cause far more. 

Stay safe, stay well all. 

The thing that worries me about lockdowns, is you may just be deferring the contagion and in fact, you maybe elongating the contagion. The government seem to be saying and the experts, the lockdown is important to protect the NHS, which I understand, but lockdowns over a long period, can't be sustainable. I sincerely hope the strategy is the right strategy.  

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37 minutes ago, waiheke1 said:

Dude, seriously, have a word with yourself. Normally i agree with you, or at least your logic, but no need for name calling, especially when you are deliberately misrepresenting his point. 

I know several health professionals, from ground level to senior strategic  all say one of the big issues is people comparing to the flu.

Corona is more contagious, has no vaccine, higher morality rate, higher rate of serious cases. There's a good reason governments are imposing lockdowns, despite the impact doing so has on their economies - and that's advice from health experts, not due to the media. 

No one is down playing the annual deaths from flu. But this new virus has potential to cause far more. 

Stay safe, stay well all. 

Not at all, that cretin has dismissed it several times on other threads. And yes, I will call someone a cretin who dismisses such a loss of life as insignificant. His comment says it all.

Corona is not yet proven to be more contagious. Figures are beginning to prove that.

Strands of flu infect millions within weeks at the start of each flu season. That is WITH a vaccine.

The death rate is as yet unproven. The more testing done, the lower it is becoming.

And yes people ARE playing down the annual deaths from the flu, it is ludicrous to suggest they are not. 

The Third Man is just one such person.

I have not belittled Covid-19, which The Third Man claims...

Yes it is something to be taken seriously as all viruses are.

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10 minutes ago, Ray Stadia said:

The thing that worries me about lockdowns, is you may just be deferring the contagion and in fact, you maybe elongating the contagion. The government seem to be saying and the experts, the lockdown is important to protect the NHS, which I understand, but lockdowns over a long period, can't be sustainable. I sincerely hope the strategy is the right strategy.  

Agreed, not a sustainable solution. But, without wanting to sound like a parrott, it is about "flattenning the curve." Reducing the peak will help ensure hospital beds for those who need them, which will reduce fatalities both from covid and other illnesses. 

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7 minutes ago, Ray Stadia said:

The thing that worries me about lockdowns, is you may just be deferring the contagion and in fact, you maybe elongating the contagion. The government seem to be saying and the experts, the lockdown is important to protect the NHS, which I understand, but lockdowns over a long period, can't be sustainable. I sincerely hope the strategy is the right strategy.  

It's not sustainable financially but delaying it enough will allow more people to be treated because more beds and nebulisers will be freed up. Less people will needlessly die and medical scientists will have longer to work out the best medicines to treat the symptoms. People have to continue getting this but it needs to be controlled like a tap. It sucks though because we will all be paying the financial burden of this for generations. 

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9 minutes ago, BWitcher said:

Not at all, that cretin has dismissed it several times on other threads. And yes, I will call someone a cretin who dismisses such a loss of life as insignificant. His comment says it all.

Corona is not yet proven to be more contagious. Figures are beginning to prove that.

Strands of flu infect millions within weeks at the start of each flu season. That is WITH a vaccine.

The death rate is as yet unproven. The more testing done, the lower it is becoming.

And yes people ARE playing down the annual deaths from the flu, it is ludicrous to suggest they are not. 

The Third Man is just one such person.

I have not belittled Covid-19, which The Third Man claims...

Yes it is something to be taken seriously as all viruses are.

If you're referring to this cretin, then I'm sorry to have to disappoint you in the fact that I haven't mentioned this topic on any other thread.

You are one sick individual. In fact I suggest we meet up once this is over and we can have it out.

Perhaps we can do it for charity? I'll donate to the SRBF, you can donate to your favourite flu charity.

I'm in Leicester, where are you?

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