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Kids just won't know what snow looks like...experts said :rofl:

 

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Very interesting graph, for those with the ability to understand it...

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2 hours ago, Blupanther said:

Very interesting graph, for those with the ability to understand it...

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You can't question "experts"!

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On 11/2/2020 at 6:41 PM, chunky said:

You can't question "experts"!

You absolutely can question experts. You can question where they get their data from and how it was collected.

You should also ask the same questions of that graph. For example, it says the red line is "continental US temperature 12-month moving average". Now try to find a source for the underlying data online.

Secondly, ask your why, if the claims of climate scientists is an increase in temperatures of around 1.5 degrees Fahrenheit since the early 1900s, this graph chooses to use a measure for Fahrenheit which ranges from 20 - 80? Is this to deliberately obscure the minute, but devastating increases.

Finally, ask yourself why the graph shows the "12-month moving average" as a jagged line and doesn't plot the long term average? Is it because it would show an upward trajectory, which is exactly what climate scientists have been warning about?

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3 hours ago, MattK said:

You absolutely can question experts. You can question where they get their data from and how it was collected.

 Jesus...

I was being facetious!

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Green won't keep you warm...

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51 minutes ago, Blupanther said:

 

Amazon fires, Tony, the devastation of the Amazon forests.....

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Bit of weather news, you won't find in the right wing press or internet groups

November has been unusually hot this year and several heat records have been broken in the country.

In Gothenburg, it was 15.7 degrees on Monday - which is the warmest November day in over 100 years.

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On ‎11‎/‎7‎/‎2020 at 9:23 AM, iris123 said:

Amazon fires, Tony, the devastation of the Amazon forests.....

In 2019, Brazil sustained historic, irreversible damage due to deforestation-related fires. Over the course of a year, more than 80,000 fires tore through the country at alarming speed, ravaging large swaths of the Amazon rain forest, the most diverse ecosystem in the world. Indigenous communities watched their territories burn to the ground. Countless habitats were destroyed and animals displaced. More than 2,000 people were hospitalized with respiratory illnesses caused by exposure to the air pollution. By the end of the year, the fires had destroyed 28,000 square miles of tree cover.

Now, Brazil has yet again been consumed by flames — this time without the same level of international attention. Yet the fires look just as bad as last year’s: According to preliminary reports from Brazil’s National Institute for Space Research, blazes have charred more than 13,200 square miles of the Amazon’s tree cover, and now, the Pantanal, the world’s largest tropical wetland, spanning 42 million acres across Brazil, Bolivia, and Paraguay, is also aflame. According to satellite data from NASA analyzed by the New York Times, fires have charred an estimated 7,861 square miles — about 10 percent of the wetland region — since January. In an interview with the Times, Douglas Morton, the chief of the Biospheric Sciences Laboratory at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center, called the fires “unprecedented.” Manuel Costa, a park ranger who has fought against the fires in the Pantanal, said they were “almost impossible to fight.”

Like the fires that ravaged the Amazon last year, this year’s blazes can be linked to farmers and ranchers, who intentionally set the fires to clear land for cattle. According to Yale University’s Global Forest Atlas, this activity accounts for 80 percent of deforestation in all Amazon countries.

During his tenure, Brazil’s far-right president, Jair Bolsonaro, has blatantly pursued business interests at the expense of environmental and indigenous protections. As one former top official for Brazil’s environmental agency told the Guardian, under Bolsonaro’s administration, the “Amazon is condemned to destruction.” After facing international condemnation and boycott threats over his negligent response to last year’s fires, Bolsonaro this past July issued a 120-day ban on fires in the Amazon and Pantanal, which has been experiencing a dangerous confluence of climate conditions: drought, low rainfall, and record-high temperatures. But according to the Times, experts see Bolsonaro’s actions as little more than a public-relations stunt, and they claim they have been widely ignored. “Most fires we’ve seen in 2020 were started after the moratorium went into effect,” Morton told the Times. Meanwhile, Bolsonaro — who has not prosecuted those who have driven illegal deforestation efforts — has responded defensively to recent reports of fires in the Amazon, disputing them as a “lie.” In some cases, he has attempted to argue that the blazes, which were captured via satellite imagery, were campfires.

“There’s a sense that environmental laws can be ignored with impunity,” Ane Alencar, the science director at the Amazon Environmental Research Institute in Brazil, told the Times. “That’s largely a result of how the government has been handling these issues.”

 

Look forward to Joe Biden kicking Bolsonaro's ass on this.......:P

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Another reality check for alarmists...

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