Schwantz34 17 Posted February 7, 2021 12 hours ago, moomin man 76 said: The Winter Olympics in 2014 in Sochi was the event where it has been proven the Russians ran a state controlled doping programme. The World Cup went ahead as Russia appealed to the Court of Arbitration for sport. The point that I was trying to make is that the WADA sanctions for Togliatti are utterly meaningless. All the crowd will be Russian, while the Russian riders are just as Russian whether you allow them to wear a Russian flag or listen to a Russian anthem. If you are going to use sanctions, you have to follow through with them, or not bother at all. There is absolutely nothing gained from stopping a flag being worn or waved, or an anthem not being played. I get what you're saying but the sanctions mean absolutely zilch for the state because the biggest events are over and done with. For me it should be specific to the sports proven to be implicated with Russia not being allowed to host events and Russian athletes involved in those sports not allowed to compete for the specified period. I suppose part of it is being selfish and desperate to see an ice speedway world championship this year though. On the world cup note I'm desperately sorry for Hans Weber, what a shame to miss out that way. Just wish there was some way he could fly out and borrow equipment from someone else Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,935 Posted February 7, 2021 On 2/5/2021 at 1:09 PM, DutchGrasstrack said: Togliatti lineup: 1 Johann Weber de 2 Lukas Hutla cz 3 Dmitry Khomitsevich ru 4 Aki Ala-Riihimaki fi 5 Max Niedermaier de 6 Daniil Ivanov ru 7 Pavel Nekrassov kz 8 Harald Simon at 9 Jasper Iwema nl 10 Luca Bauer de 11 Markus Jell de 12 Andrey Shishegov ru 13 Nikita Toloknov ru 14 Igor Kononov ru 15 Franky Zorn at 16 Dinar Valeev ru -- 17 Andrey Anisimov ru 18 Ilya Krivonoszkho ru Seems everyone has just moved up a place now Hans Weber is out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DutchGrasstrack 804 Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, iris123 said: Seems everyone has just moved up a place now Hans Weber is out Don't think that will be the final line-up as it's quite unusual. I guess Anisimov will move up to number 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,935 Posted February 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, DutchGrasstrack said: Don't think that will be the final line-up as it's quite unusual. I guess Anisimov will move up to number 1. Well I personally will be surprised if all the West based riders make it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moomin man 76 171 Posted February 8, 2021 I will be staggered if all the western competitors make it. On a separate note, it feels like a very odd World Final without any Swedish riders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DutchGrasstrack 804 Posted February 8, 2021 Iwema has arrived in Togliatti. Think Zorn too. Jell and Simon were at the border last night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,935 Posted February 8, 2021 Hutla is in Prague hoping to get his visa atm I think Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DutchGrasstrack 804 Posted February 8, 2021 They have visa 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted February 8, 2021 Reading all of the above the time window at the border, that was arranged as a special deal at one specific crossing, is quite wide. :lol: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,935 Posted February 8, 2021 Zorn said he was at the border for 8 hours, which doesn't seem too bad to be honest. Thought it normally takes as long or longer and I was thinking it would be worse atm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DutchGrasstrack 804 Posted February 8, 2021 47 minutes ago, iris123 said: Zorn said he was at the border for 8 hours, which doesn't seem too bad to be honest. Thought it normally takes as long or longer and I was thinking it would be worse atm Could have been faster. Iwema said there were some paper issues, but 8 hours wasn't too bad comparing to previous experiences. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conkers 67 Posted February 8, 2021 13 hours ago, moomin man 76 said: I will be staggered if all the western competitors make it. On a separate note, it feels like a very odd World Final without any Swedish riders. I get the impression that staging this meeting wasn't really a good idea after all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gambo 1,338 Posted February 8, 2021 21 hours ago, DutchGrasstrack said: Don't think that will be the final line-up as it's quite unusual. I guess Anisimov will move up to number 1. Andrej Diviš (ACCR) rides @ No.1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DutchGrasstrack 804 Posted February 9, 2021 Jell and Simon finally crossed the border after 32 hours. They were at the Latvian border. Iwema and Zorn used the Finnish border. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Schwantz34 17 Posted February 9, 2021 15 hours ago, DutchGrasstrack said: Jell and Simon finally crossed the border after 32 hours. They were at the Latvian border. Wow, I admire the patience these guys have. I feel like as much as I'm sure I'd enjoy racing ice speedway I just couldn't be arsed with a carry on like that, especially Simon in his fifties. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
