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On 1/21/2021 at 12:34 PM, Phil The Ace said:

Price won't change. No chance 

Falling crowds won't change. No chance.

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On 11/24/2020 at 8:39 AM, Barrow Boy 2 said:

It is possible to find enough riders for just one Division but it would certainly be of a much lower standard. National League riders would have to be brought in and lesser known available Europeans would have to be sought.  Another issue would be by restricting riders to be only allowed to have one  source of income which could result in some  not being willing to ride for less money.  Even so I would like to see just the one league  with perhaps more competitions being brought back  to allow riders to replace some of their reduced earnings.

We are going to get a lower standard anyway - perhaps even a much lower standar. But with no lower admission and hence almsot certainly even lower crowds. One league with a much lower overall level is preferable for the variety ( to me at least ), rather than doubling up to the extent it had reached.

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There wouldn't be enough riders for one big league without riders who are no where near ready being chucked  in the deep end to make the numbers up and even then they may not be enough.

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3 hours ago, Steve0 said:

And that is where speedway has been going wrong for years - people want value for money and if not Speedway, they will get it elsewhere.  

I understand what you are saying,so we speedway fans should be demanding that our clubs tracks are not just rideable, but raceable,If the racing is good then fans will return the following week, regardless of who is in our team.If fans stop going because no GP riders are on show, that wont help British speedway. It's the racing that counts, not the riders name.

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Fans with long memories will remember the National League of the early 60's. It ran its final year with 7 teams in 1965, racing ina National League and an identical Britannia Shield format, so racing every team home and away twice. In 1966 the National and Provincial Leagues amalgamated and formed the British League.

That saved British Speedway.

Should have amalgamated the top two leagues years ago......would have been far more resilient to the whims of other speedway federations whims and ambitions.  Sadly with our current crop of promoters it was never going to happen. Too many egos out there wanting to race in the "top tier" 

 

 

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Troy to Sheffield, Lawson been released. 

Would imagine most sides would be interested in Richard. 

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1 hour ago, hyderd said:

I understand what you are saying,so we speedway fans should be demanding that our clubs tracks are not just rideable, but raceable,If the racing is good then fans will return the following week, regardless of who is in our team.If fans stop going because no GP riders are on show, that wont help British speedway. It's the racing that counts, not the riders name.

You need to get them there in the first place.  As an example (and no disrespect to anyone) imagine that you are used to watching Jason Doyle, Troy Batchelor and Rasmus Jensen and then your top 3 riders become Chris Harris, Scott Nicholls and Edward Kennet and you have to pay the same admission.  Apart from the die hards, how do you get fans to attend?  Remember - value for money.

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it's time those 'die hards' realised the situation British speedway is in

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15 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said:

Go to Kent and see Scott Nicholls Paul Hurry and Ben Morley 

Q.E.D.

I wouldn’t part with the best part of £20 to see them!

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2 hours ago, old bob at herne bay said:

Fans with long memories will remember the National League of the early 60's. It ran its final year with 7 teams in 1965, racing ina National League and an identical Britannia Shield format, so racing every team home and away twice. In 1966 the National and Provincial Leagues amalgamated and formed the British League.

That saved British Speedway.

Should have amalgamated the top two leagues years ago......would have been far more resilient to the whims of other speedway federations whims and ambitions.  Sadly with our current crop of promoters it was never going to happen. Too many egos out there wanting to race in the "top tier" 

 

 

You are a year out Bob it was 1965 when the leagues amalgamated. The same situation existed then as now, top 5 riders - Craven Fundin Moore Knutsson had gone apart from Barry Briggs. It took an independent report to show what was obvious to many that the leagues must come together. However it wasn’t until the second division was introduced that the sport really took off again bringing in so many youngsters to the sport. 
 

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2 hours ago, Steve0 said:

You need to get them there in the first place.  As an example (and no disrespect to anyone) imagine that you are used to watching Jason Doyle, Troy Batchelor and Rasmus Jensen and then your top 3 riders become Chris Harris, Scott Nicholls and Edward Kennet and you have to pay the same admission.  Apart from the die hards, how do you get fans to attend?  Remember - value for money.

I would rather see a race than Jason Doyle fly out of the traps and win by a mile, Belle Vue if they track the roughly the same 1-7 will have no out and out number 1, but we should have a team of racers, good racing gets people talking. Boring races don't. J Doyle is a great rider and I enjoyed watching him round the NSS. but I would sooner watch a close exciting race and that IMHO is what promoters should be striving to do by improvements to their race tracks.

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20 hours ago, Blupanther said:

Good job its not called the Elite league anymore then...;)

Oh Sincere apologies Its hardly Premier either

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