Fromafar 10,333 Posted January 7, 2021 14 minutes ago, mikebv said: If correct. Surely this should have been done months ago? Forget any "Poland throwing a spanner in the works" or 'Brexit issues', as they should have had all riders who wanted to sign, signed up months ago using detailed knowledge of work permit rules.. Anyone hedging their bets, and biding time, should have been given to September end as the latest to confirm or not.. If no answer forthcoming or only a tentative 'yes' then that rider should have been ruled out... A 100% comittment or nothing at all has to be the way forward.. Then knowing how many unequivocal Yes answers they had, they could then have spent the last three months planning team strengths, riders per team, provisional fixture lists, race formats etc.. Its called being in charge of your own destiny.. Think it be the Brexit”excuse” this month. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewy 2,322 Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Think it be the Brexit”excuse” this month. Yes brexit took them by surprise, quite unexpected! Edited January 7, 2021 by lewy 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevehone 3,425 Posted January 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: Think it be the Brexit”excuse” this month. i think getting work permits may be the issue, new rules and all that. and i agree that they should only concentrate on those 100% committed, that's the only way forward from here on 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,333 Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, lewy said: Yes brexit took them by surprise, quite unexpected! They certainly aren’t ahead of the game.Nothing new there though.Like has been pointed out elsewhere riders and contracts should be all signed up by December.Tell them to make up there mind where they are committed too,adjust GB speedway to suit with what’s left , after all the Poles seem to manage it.We are always going to play second fiddle to them nowadays. , Edited January 7, 2021 by Fromafar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewy 2,322 Posted January 8, 2021 Polish speedway is run by people who want their league to be the best in the world, Britain speedway is run by people who want their team to be the best in the league! 7 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HGould 2,213 Posted January 8, 2021 7 hours ago, Fromafar said: They certainly aren’t ahead of the game.Nothing new there though.Like has been pointed out elsewhere riders and contracts should be all signed up by December.Tell them to make up there mind where they are committed too,adjust GB speedway to suit with what’s left , after all the Poles seem to manage it.We are always going to play second fiddle to them nowadays. , Isn't that why Glasgow and a few others like Somerset and Eastbourne are rightly kicking off? They built their teams to the rules, got everything sorted professionally and now the lazy ones who sat back want a reduced limit to cherry pick those that have to be released? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HGould 2,213 Posted January 8, 2021 35 minutes ago, lewy said: Polish speedway is run by people who want their league to be the best in the world, Britain speedway is run by people who want their team to be the best in the league! Wrong, Polish Speedway is run by people who have millions of TV and State and Local Authority money to spend who like the PL Soccer in UK are living beyond their means whilst they have that spending power. British Speedway is governed by dinosaurs and masses of stupid rules that stop some Clubs from having the power to break out of the headlock they have them in. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W9 Lion 219 Posted January 8, 2021 2 hours ago, HGould said: Isn't that why Glasgow and a few others like Somerset and Eastbourne are rightly kicking off? They built their teams to the rules, got everything sorted professionally and now the lazy ones who sat back want a reduced limit to cherry pick those that have to be released? I think that the problem was that when riders were signed for thr 2021 season they were available. Now the rider is not. Eastbourne are in a strong position with a British 1-7 in the Championship, while other clubs have had riders withdrawn or there is some doubt on riders being in Europe next season etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,333 Posted January 8, 2021 50 minutes ago, W9 Lion said: I think that the problem was that when riders were signed for thr 2021 season they were available. Now the rider is not. Eastbourne are in a strong position with a British 1-7 in the Championship, while other clubs have had riders withdrawn or there is some doubt on riders being in Europe next season etc. The problem is we have sat back and watch it happen.IMO. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_martin 1,606 Posted January 8, 2021 5 hours ago, Fromafar said: The problem is we have sat back and watch it happen.IMO. And what would have been your action plan to prevent it from happening? 1. Don't sit back 2. ...??? 3. ...??? 4. ...??? Please do fill in the gaps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,333 Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, uk_martin said: And what would have been your action plan to prevent it from happening? 1. Don't sit back 2. ...??? 3. ...??? 4. ...??? Please do fill in the gaps. Irrelevant question asking me.Try asking BSPA, certainly not telling the fans what they have been doing regarding matters.It may also be irrelevant asking them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cityrebel 2,960 Posted January 8, 2021 For the promoters, it is a jump into the unknown. How can they offer riders contracts without knowing the crowd levels post covid. Things will never be the same, for anyone connected with the sport. I fear it will be survival of the fittest. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gunner85 603 Posted January 10, 2021 If we have lost quite a lot of riders as well as issues with visas, then the BSP should use this as a new start. Similar to the 1965 British league after The NL and PL came together. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillwhitewasmad 1,486 Posted January 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Gunner85 said: If we have lost quite a lot of riders as well as issues with visas, then the BSP should use this as a new start. Similar to the 1965 British league after The NL and PL came together. Exactly right but won't happen as a couple of clubs are holding the rest to ransom having paid out for engines and signing on fees to there riders last year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HGould 2,213 Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, phillwhitewasmad said: Exactly right but won't happen as a couple of clubs are holding the rest to ransom having paid out for engines and signing on fees to there riders last year If professional Clubs have got contracts with riders like Glasgow and Somerset have; why should they be penalised. The rest should shape up or ship out and focus on lower level or amateur racing. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
