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3 minutes ago, phillwhitewasmad said:

Said person if rumours are right is already no longer a member of the said committee having already chucked the towel in :rolleyes:

If said person has resigned i wonder when it will be announced?

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1 minute ago, lewy said:

If said person has resigned i wonder when it will be announced?

When it's in the press release :rofl:

but if it is true and riders are becoming available will the pressure from some clubs for everything to stay the same cease. As I see it nothing is the same anymore so let's have a reset of the sport. 

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It's a constantly changing picture with the pandemic, brexit and rider availability some clubs pulling the plug etc making decisions for the future very difficult.  Maybe a complete reset is the answer if only we had a crystal ball!

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3 minutes ago, lewy said:

It's a constantly changing picture with the pandemic, brexit and rider availability some clubs pulling the plug etc making decisions for the future very difficult.  Maybe a complete reset is the answer if only we had a crystal ball!

Thing is regardless of our team affiliation we all know the sport is in disarray, so why not use the pandemic , brexit and rider availability as the once in a lifetime chance to press the reset button. Surely it is the opportunity the sport so badly needs for a period of time they have to put personal differences aside and vote for the good of the sport and not what's good personally 

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You always have the feeling at Speedway AGM's that even though 'The Success Of The Sport' is the only thing that they should focus on (and even more so currently), that "taking your bat and ball home" for some is never too far off the agenda..

Due to the Mickey Mouse rules they themsleves have implemented, it has pretty much devalued all their own competitions to not much more than a worthless' level, yet, for some, I would imagine, "winning" one of the Comps is still their overall objective, and "getting their way" at the AGM may just swing things in their favour to allow them to 'bask in the glory of victory' with a 'massed throng' of a few hundred people joining them...

And all the while the Sport as a collective sinks lower and lower...

Note to those in charge. .

A great many fans of Speedway don't care who wins your Mickey Mouse structured Competitions...

But a great many fans do care about the Sport they love...

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5 minutes ago, phillwhitewasmad said:

Thing is regardless of our team affiliation we all know the sport is in disarray, so why not use the pandemic , brexit and rider availability as the once in a lifetime chance to press the reset button. Surely it is the opportunity the sport so badly needs for a period of time they have to put personal differences aside and vote for the good of the sport and not what's good personally 

Spot on...

The following season is affectively a free pass given to them from all the fans desperate to see some Speedway...

They could have 'relaunched' the sport in the UK, with innovative, fresh, exciting, new ideas for the Sport in the UK..

Some which would work, some which wouldn't. .

However, those that worked could then be built on for future success, and those that didn't replaced with other ideas...

Going it alone was never more such a huge opportunity to be taken, becoming truly in charge of your own destiny, not being beholden to anyone other than their responsibility to FIM events..

Be interesting to see what innovative, fresh, exciting new ideas they have come up with with this huge opportunity for a reset and relaunch..

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11 minutes ago, mikebv said:

Spot on...

The following season is affectively a free pass given to them from all the fans desperate to see some Speedway...

They could have 'relaunched' the sport in the UK, with innovative, fresh, exciting, new ideas for the Sport in the UK..

Some which would work, some which wouldn't. .

However, those that worked could then be built on for future success, and those that didn't replaced with other ideas...

Going it alone was never more such a huge opportunity to be taken, becoming truly in charge of your own destiny, not being beholden to anyone other than their responsibility to FIM events..

Be interesting to see what innovative, fresh, exciting new ideas they have come up with with this huge opportunity for a reset and relaunch..

The old saying "Never waste a good crisis"

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7 hours ago, cinderfella said:

...IMO the only way speedway in the UK is going to move forward is with the formation of a TOTALLY INDEPENDENT administrative ruling body ...

Made up of who?
Paid how much, and by who?
And who gets rid of them if they are no good?

Get real. Who on earth, who's any good at anything, would want to take on the job?  How much money do you think promoters are willing to pay to people who may not have a clue about the sport only to have the clueless give them the orders about how to run their show?  And when they screw up, then what?

When you have the answers, why not go on Dragons Den and suggest it to some real business people, and see if you can sell your idea to them and get their backing for your plan. See what their reaction will be.

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1 hour ago, uk_martin said:

Made up of who?
Paid how much, and by who?
And who gets rid of them if they are no good?

Get real. Who on earth, who's any good at anything, would want to take on the job?  How much money do you think promoters are willing to pay to people who may not have a clue about the sport only to have the clueless give them the orders about how to run their show?  And when they screw up, then what?

When you have the answers, why not go on Dragons Den and suggest it to some real business people, and see if you can sell your idea to them and get their backing for your plan. See what their reaction will be.

A good management/admin team would be capable of bringing sponsorship money into the sport and their salaries could be paid from that.

We can't get rid of the clowns running the sport as it is but anyone brought in would have a proven track (no pun intended) record. There have been various names of folk who have improved other sports bandied about in the past.

Perhaps if you should get real if you think British Speedway is being managed properly. British Speedway was where every rider once wanted to ride but even the top British riders don't want to ride in their own national leagues these days and our sport is being dictated to by another country.

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Comsidering what may be an obvious question; bearing in mind my interest in football is zip, the only grounds I've visited are Shielfield Park, The Shay, Owlerton (think they staged football for a time?) (original) Wembley and Hull's KCOM Stadium (only as part of a university course).  So: how does it work for the football divisions / leagues with presumably the F.A. creating, enforcing and if necessary altering the rules of the game for the clubs which are (presumably) all separate businesses ? 

I just wondered in respect to how a much proposed 'independant ruling body, could / would work enforcing the (too many?) rules & regulations to ensure unbiased fairness in UK speedway....  

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Massive opportunity today to revolutionise speedway in the UK, get a proper all encompassing streaming service set up, race on the nights we want to with riders who will be fully committed to the leagues and their clubs with a fan base who are going to be desperate to see some speedway if and when it gets going this year.....but will they take it? How much faith have we all got in the folk running British speedway? 

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23 hours ago, Mimmo said:

Nothing to do with this topic, but is anybody else getting adverts popping up between postings.  

No, but I use Firefox with an adblocker: works like a charm!

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3 minutes ago, *JJ said:

No, but I use Firefox with an adblocker: works like a charm!

I use Firefox...where do I access the adblocker please as they're driving me mad!

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British speedway needs to concrete on itself instead of being dictated to by other countries , It's never going to complete financially with poland etc . Like is being said it's a good opportunity to reset and make everything run at less cost , which would then enable lower admission prices . I'm sure clubs could attract bigger crowds and recoup finances steadily. Any rider out pricing themselves would like any business have to be sensible or be left without employment. 

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46 minutes ago, ONTWOMINUTES said:

British speedway needs to concrete on itself instead of being dictated to by other countries , It's never going to complete financially with poland etc . Like is being said it's a good opportunity to reset and make everything run at less cost , which would then enable lower admission prices . I'm sure clubs could attract bigger crowds and recoup finances steadily. Any rider out pricing themselves would like any business have to be sensible or be left without employment. 

Well said..

Basic Business Practice..

An example I can give where the UK's business plan was incredibly flawed was when the Aces had Matej Zagar..

The Slovenian Championships were ran over several Finals so Matej would miss several Aces meetings to attend..

(Coincidentally they seemed to always be meetings away from home, and usually on tracks he didnt like so they could bring a track specialist guest in!! Who mentioned credibility?) Anyway I digress....

If my shop sold Slovenian goods and I paid "top dollar" for them, but they were my best selling products, I would be pleased to carry on selling them as "it worked for me"..

However, if my Slovenian suppliers told me that for several weeks of the year they were concentrating on other markets, and couldn't supply me, thus meaning I couldn't open my shop, thus pissing my customers off who subsequently went elsewhere, I would eventually have to face the facts that they had a far too unhealthy impact on my business, and source suppliers who could guarantee supply every single week..

Now, these products may be of inferior quality, but would still be 'pretty decent', and would be cheaper to purchase for me and therefore my customers. And may even be deemed better value for money overall with a better margin for me..

With obviously the biggest positive being that my customers could attend regularly due to being confident that (a) I was actually open and (b) that they could get what they wanted each time..

A Speedway meeting full of lads from the UK is as exciting as any other Speedway meeting using "international" riders..

The No1 aim of the BSPL, way, way above any other aims, has to be to make GB the best Speedway team in the World, as that is the one guaranteed way to increase the public profile of the Sport through wider media coverage..

Domestic Speedway can then subsequently feed off this awareness and reflect in its global success..

However to do this means UK riders getting scores of meetings to improve their capabilities, and the chances to earn the money needed to compete at the very top level..

Therefore, let's just create that opportunity for them...

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