Grachan 7,360 Posted January 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, topsoil said: I think there has to be two divisions for several reasons:- 1) there is too big a gap in the standards between the top riders in the Premiership and the reserves in the Championship to compete in a single league. 2) I'm still to be convinced there are enough riders to do away with doubling up / down for a single league. 3) What average would you give to riders currently riding in both leagues? 4) In this shortened season is there enough room for fixtures for a single league? In terms of this season you may be right about too many teams for one league, although this is apparently a 5 year plan so it isn't just to take that into account. If the gap in reserves is a problem, why are Premiership teams effectively signing the same strength reserves as the CL anyway. PL team reserves are grade 4 or below. CL team are grade 3 or below. There is a difference there, but not much, although we don't yet know what a Grade 4 rider will be so that could be wrong. Are riders like Dan Bewley and Adam Ellis going to be grade 4 riders? I doubt it. You could call both "rising stars" though, so I could be proven wrong. Riders should just get the average that they have from the league they are in. So, if a rider averages 6.00 in the PL and 5.00 in the CL just give them that average - 6.00 in the PL and 5.00 in the CL. I'd only use an average conversion for a rider who didn't ride in that league in 2019. In future I'd like to see the top flight teams able to sign who they like within the points limit. If you have a league as small as 6 teams I would say it needs to have strong line ups to make it attractive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsunami 10,219 Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, mikebv said: Great news re bringing on the young riders.. A successful GB team will deliver miles more coverage, publicity and therefore awareness of the sport, than any individual team success ever could.. 5 years though is a long time, and we have had plans of this length before.. So let's hope this time they stay solidly behind the plan.. Although, given some of the people now involved, I think we can have a bit more confidence that such a plan will now get carried through... For once I agree with you, and on every point. With COVID, Brexit, Poland and rider availability we were forced into bringing through the British youth which has never been in as good a shape for years through the BYC. I like the fact that an agreed plan has been developed, and all the clubs have agreed to a unified front on team selections, launch programme, and it's all aligned with the Eurosport and their launch. It doesn't really matter we have reduced the team strength, less costs going out of the sport with visas, flight, vehicles, lodgings and more concentration on Brits and especially the young riders. This is the sort of plan and unification that the sport badly needs to make future progress and build up British stock along the way. Only thing not hinted at is the possibility of a supremo to run the sport, possibility to be announced later when he has cut the ties that stops him from taking the post now. Well he has left now, so why hasn't Trump been announced. Having a personal interest in the sport, I sincerely hope it all goes well, and everyone thinks of the sport before their personal interest. Looking good. Edited January 21, 2021 by Tsunami 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillwhitewasmad 1,487 Posted January 21, 2021 6 hours ago, Islander15 said: So they’re saying grading but really they still mean averages as a rider graded 2 cones up with a 2.00 average now anyway. That's as I understand it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
proud panther 1,505 Posted January 21, 2021 46 minutes ago, Tsunami said: For once I agree with you, and on every point. With COVID, Brexit, Poland and rider availability we were forced into bringing through the British youth which has never been in as good a shape for years through the BYC. I like the fact that an agreed plan has been developed, and all the clubs have agreed to a unified front on team selections, launch programme, and it's all aligned with the Eurosport and their launch. It doesn't really matter we have reduced the team strength, less costs going out of the sport with visas, flight, vehicles, lodgings and more concentration on Brits and especially the young riders. This is the sort of plan and unification that the sport badly needs to make future progress and build up British stock along the way. Only thing not hinted at is the possibility of a supremo to run the sport, possibility to be announced later when he has cut the ties that stops him from taking the post now. Having a personal interest in the sport, I sincerely hope it all goes well, and everyone thinks of the sport before their personal interest. Looking good. Will it last 5 years ? A lot of the young lads could have their confidence knocked if they are only scoring a couple of points. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsunami 10,219 Posted January 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, proud panther said: Will it last 5 years ? A lot of the young lads could have their confidence knocked if they are only scoring a couple of points. Always will happen for some. Being at 7 against like riders and have 2 other riders just about them at 6 is far better than being shoved in against no 1's in many races. Yes, they need a bit of protection, but there are many who at reserve at home can often beat the middle order and reserves of the away team. Thats the way to progress. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,022 Posted January 21, 2021 So according to Sky News the government scientists are advising not to open hospiliatlity til May but speedway will start at the same time! Yeah right! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,634 Posted January 21, 2021 Just now, lisa-colette said: So according to Sky News the government scientists are advising not to open hospiliatlity til May but speedway will start at the same time! Yeah right! If that is the same as going back to Tier 2 then most Speedway tracks should be fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,022 Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Skidder1 said: If that is the same as going back to Tier 2 then most Speedway tracks should be fine. What if they mean no hospiliatlity til mid May? There is no way speedway will get ahead of that sector! As I have said before, July a much more realistic option, esp with schools prob not going back til just before Easter acc to Boris...? Hospital admission still on the rise atm. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arthur54 1,300 Posted January 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: So according to Sky News the government scientists are advising not to open hospiliatlity til May but speedway will start at the same time! Yeah right! I have also heard, in the premiership it's the top 6 to the playoffs 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ray c 2,299 Posted January 21, 2021 johnson also said today than lockdown may not end till summer and that starts in june .another thing why would australian riders come over for a very short season ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mimmo 1,070 Posted January 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: What if they mean no hospiliatlity til mid May? There is no way speedway will get ahead of that sector! As I have said before, July a much more realistic option, esp with schools prob not going back til just before Easter acc to Boris...? Hospital admission still on the rise atm. BoJo is talking about the possibilty of summer, hope for goodness sake that isn't right!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mimmo 1,070 Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, ray c said: johnson also said today than lockdown may not end till summer and that starts in june .another thing why would australian riders come over for a very short season ? I was typing my post as you were Ray, so we must have just watched the news on BBC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,022 Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Mimmo said: BoJo is talking about the possibilty of summer, hope for goodness sake that isn't right!!! Better to give a long date you are pretty sure about then say May and then that doesn't happen! I guess it depends on if any more variants slip into the country. Edited January 21, 2021 by lisa-colette Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,022 Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ray c said: johnson also said today than lockdown may not end till summer and that starts in june .another thing why would australian riders come over for a very short season ? So my July estimate could be right then. I did ask Stewert Dickson on Twitter if no speedway til July what would the season look like? He replied with Once home and away with no playoffs, is what he would guess. LisaColette @bluepride32Jan 13 Replying to @Stewart58963517 Personally can't see it happening til around July. Would half a season be feesible? Or is there are cut off month for starting the season? Stewart Dickson @Stewart58963517 ·Jan 14 I think if we started in July we would most probably do one home and one away with no play offs, that’s certainly what I would put forward. Edited January 21, 2021 by lisa-colette Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chewbacca 653 Posted January 21, 2021 The hospitality industry is indoors, pubs and restaurants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites