Najjer 2,855 Posted December 17, 2020 15 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: HAVE seen estimates of a minimum of nine months but only time will tell. Need to be positive ... Only if you want to spend 10 days at home isolating Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skodaman 192 Posted December 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Najjer said: Only if you want to spend 10 days at home isolating No one knows the time factor as the trialists have not had the viccine long enough to judge. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,853 Posted December 17, 2020 43 minutes ago, Skodaman said: No one knows the time factor as the trialists have not had the viccine long enough to judge. Well if their immunity has already dropped then they do. But the immune response has been reported as varied but you have to winder at reports of 9 months to a few years. Let’s just hope it is enough to get out of this chaos once and for all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enotian 562 Posted December 17, 2020 On 12/16/2020 at 7:09 PM, PHILIPRISING said: FROM a google site ... Once someone is vaccinated for COVID-19, their body should naturally develop antibodies that correspond with the virus and ward off future infection, but it’s still not clear how long those antibodies will last. very strange. my understanding of antibodies is that the body does develop them, sometimes requiring a vaccine to identify the contagion, but I wasn't aware that the (healthy) body could then forget how to generate those antibodies. If that were the case wouldn't we constantly need top up vaccinations for all kinds on diseases that we've been inoculated against?? Unless this virus is mutating? Lots of strange messages out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsunami 10,219 Posted December 17, 2020 34 minutes ago, enotian said: very strange. my understanding of antibodies is that the body does develop them, sometimes requiring a vaccine to identify the contagion, but I wasn't aware that the (healthy) body could then forget how to generate those antibodies. If that were the case wouldn't we constantly need top up vaccinations for all kinds on diseases that we've been inoculated against?? Unless this virus is mutating? Lots of strange messages out there. I thought that this possibility was aired at the launchtime of the vaccine in the UK. There are several unknowns like fertility of women. and possibility of its reaction in people taking multiple medicines, which were not able to be tested in the haste to produce a vaccine to help to stave off the virus. Only realtime experience will say how long the vaccine will be working successfully, but there has been a view expressed that it could be similar to the Flu virus, with the need to have an annual injection say in September/October to get us over the worst period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,853 Posted December 18, 2020 8 hours ago, enotian said: very strange. my understanding of antibodies is that the body does develop them, sometimes requiring a vaccine to identify the contagion, but I wasn't aware that the (healthy) body could then forget how to generate those antibodies. If that were the case wouldn't we constantly need top up vaccinations for all kinds on diseases that we've been inoculated against?? Unless this virus is mutating? Lots of strange messages out there. You do constantly need top up vaccinations for some diseases Rabies for instance requires one every 2 years at most if you work in a job where it is considered a danger Typhoid requires a top up every 2-5 years according to which vaccine you have Whooping Cough requires a top up every 10 years if you work with young infants Whereas if you have the MMR vaccine it is considered to be life time protection Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RS50 355 Posted December 19, 2020 Whilst having sympathy for the difficult position promoters must be in, can't help but feel that all season ticket holders from last year, who rolled over their tickets to this year, ought to be getting some information about what they may possibly expect in 2021. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greyhoundp 990 Posted December 19, 2020 5 hours ago, RS50 said: Whilst having sympathy for the difficult position promoters must be in, can't help but feel that all season ticket holders from last year, who rolled over their tickets to this year, ought to be getting some information about what they may possibly expect in 2021. I think following on from the most recent news conference, I would be saying to fans dont pin to much hope on an Easter start to the season, if the Tier system is still in place then how will that work, Tier 3/4 no fans, Tiers 1/2 up to 2000 fans, basically if the tier system is still in place then we cant really start the season, as an example prior to today Kent, Somerset can have fans but Birmingham, Sheffield cant have fans, how will that work ?. We simply do not know how this Pandemic is going to pan out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
screm 7,988 Posted December 19, 2020 5 hours ago, RS50 said: Whilst having sympathy for the difficult position promoters must be in, can't help but feel that all season ticket holders from last year, who rolled over their tickets to this year, ought to be getting some information about what they may possibly expect in 2021. I am in that position where my 2020 season will rollover to 2021, hopefully we will see speedway then. I`m sure the promotions will get all relevant information out when the time comes. A lot can happen in four months. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topsoil 2,498 Posted December 19, 2020 2 hours ago, screm said: I am in that position where my 2020 season will rollover to 2021, hopefully we will see speedway then. I`m sure the promotions will get all relevant information out when the time comes. A lot can happen in four months. To be fair to the Berwick promotion, they have always kept the fans informed (and I am in exactly the same position as you). But how the hell are promoters supposed to predict the future when situations change almost daily. They have every sympathy from me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cityrebel 2,960 Posted December 20, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, RS50 said: Whilst having sympathy for the difficult position promoters must be in, can't help but feel that all season ticket holders from last year, who rolled over their tickets to this year, ought to be getting some information about what they may possibly expect in 2021. There is no guarantee that some tracks haven't already spent the money. I'm not optimistic that my 10 meeting ticket will be honoured. The sport will be in a very different place than it was pre Covid and brexit. When speedway starts again, Some clubs will not survive this worldwide crisis, it's inevitable. Edited December 20, 2020 by cityrebel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,617 Posted December 20, 2020 6 hours ago, cityrebel said: There is no guarantee that some tracks haven't already spent the money. I'm not optimistic that my 10 meeting ticket will be honoured. The sport will be in a very different place than it was pre Covid and brexit. When speedway starts again, Some clubs will not survive this worldwide crisis, it's inevitable. All clubs have stated their intention to run in 2021 - with the season fixtures commencing (hopefully) from Easter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cityrebel 2,960 Posted December 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Skidder1 said: All clubs have stated their intention to run in 2021 - with the season fixtures commencing (hopefully) from Easter. Talking about it and doing it are two different things. The way this second wave is spreading, easter could be very optimistic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bavarian 763 Posted December 20, 2020 And crowds could be very much down on previous years. Many elderly people are still scared to catch the virus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
00000 1,279 Posted December 21, 2020 On 12/20/2020 at 6:45 AM, cityrebel said: There is no guarantee that some tracks haven't already spent the money. I'm not optimistic that my 10 meeting ticket will be honoured. The sport will be in a very different place than it was pre Covid and brexit. When speedway starts again, Some clubs will not survive this worldwide crisis, it's inevitable. If your ten match ticket is for Eastbourne Eagles, there is no need to worry. Club has said on more than one occasion season tickets and ten match ones will roll on to 2021. They've got a team all set to go, works been done to Arlington Stadium, all we need know is for Covid to ease off and vaccinations to ramp up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites