Tsunami 10,219 Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, chunky said: Same with darts. It doesn't make you more "accurate", but once you get that supreme confidence, and removes EVERY doubt in your head, it does - as you say - lead to an accelerated level of performance. I was a very decent dart player in my twenties. I was not a drinker, but for my dart matches I used to have about a pint and a half before and during my matches and became a very good player. Difficulty was if my opponent was late or my team match didn't start on time, I ran our of confidence and not at my best. Edited October 27, 2020 by Tsunami Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ringitsneck 348 Posted October 27, 2020 Garrity was a drug user from a troubled background, doesn’t excuse his behaviour and justice has been done but he WAS a talented speedway rider and was regularly targeted by testers at meetingS having been regularly ‘ randomly selected ‘ ( by opposition promoters) and he passed every time. There have been a number of riders who were informed of the testers presence and were promptly ‘ injured ‘ or broke down en route, I recall a certain Sheffield rider doing a u turn in a club car park having been told of their presence and the excuse given for his absence was given as ‘ he fell down the stairs at home ‘. Didn’t wash with the fans who saw him in his sponsored van hastily exiting the stadium car park. Not the only one over the last few seasons. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midland Red 2,383 Posted October 27, 2020 4 hours ago, moxey63 said: The one saving grace for the sport is that speedway didn’t get a mention in the reports as it being Garrity’s profession. Thought it would have been the headline, to be honest... and shows the irrelevance of speedway in today’s media world. Oh yes it did! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,002 Posted October 27, 2020 5 hours ago, moxey63 said: The one saving grace for the sport is that speedway didn’t get a mention in the reports as it being Garrity’s profession. Thought it would have been the headline, to be honest... and shows the irrelevance of speedway in today’s media world. Depends which reports you've read, GB Speedway sponsor the Daily Star led with a Speedway Star Garrity etc. etc. headline 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
False dawn 2,298 Posted October 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Ringitsneck said: Garrity was a drug user from a troubled background, doesn’t excuse his behaviour and justice has been done but he WAS a talented speedway rider and was regularly targeted by testers at meetingS having been regularly ‘ randomly selected ‘ ( by opposition promoters) and he passed every time. There have been a number of riders who were informed of the testers presence and were promptly ‘ injured ‘ or broke down en route, I recall a certain Sheffield rider doing a u turn in a club car park having been told of their presence and the excuse given for his absence was given as ‘ he fell down the stairs at home ‘. Didn’t wash with the fans who saw him in his sponsored van hastily exiting the stadium car park. Not the only one over the last few seasons. Then we need to tighten the rules. Miss a meeting where you're scheduled to appear where random testing takes place and you have 72 hours to present yourself for testing. Miss the test and you're automatically suspended pending further investigations. Can we, in any way, turn a blind eye to the possibility that a small minority of riders are endangering their peers due to drug or alcohol abuse? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moxey63 1,785 Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) Speedway needs to be stricter with riders that spontaneously miss meetings after getting wind of a random test. Perhaps an obligatory sample within 24 hours of the original test taking place, otherwise it means admission of guilt. Speedway, as we all know, is a dangerous game. Testing for drug users must be watertight. Edited October 27, 2020 by moxey63 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve roberts 9,246 Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, moxey63 said: Speedway needs to be stricter with riders who spontaneously miss meetings who get wind of a random test. Perhaps a obligatory sample within 24 hours of the original test taking place, otherwise it means admission of guilt. How do riders find out there's going to be a test anyway? Could be wise if even for the tester is kept in the dark until the meeting is underway. No competitor should have prior knowledge there's to be testing. Forewarning there may be a random test is similar to speedway telling any user to "do one," to evade being tested positively and damaging the sport. Speedway, we all know, is a dangerous game. Testing for drug users to be watertight. I know that Hans Nielsen was a great advocate to tests being carried out in an interview with then SRA Secretary Colin Gear. in "Backtrack" a few years back Edited October 27, 2020 by steve roberts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moxey63 1,785 Posted October 27, 2020 1 minute ago, steve roberts said: I know that Hans Nielsen was a great advocate to tests being carried out in an interview with then SRA Secretary Colin Gear. in "Backtrack" a few years back I recall Barry Briggs writing in the 70s that there was a growth in riders taking drugs. Society has seen the use of drugs mushroom since then. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigcatdiary 3,165 Posted October 27, 2020 10 hours ago, sugarray said: Sure it was Jespers carb. Can't remember opposition but remember machine examiner being asked to do random checks. Found the carb to be outside of tolerances. Even referee checked it and agreed. But when Jim McMillan checked it was deemed to be ok. It was JBJ just not in 2007, more likely 2006 when he scored 10 in a Panthers win at Wimborne Road. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted October 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, bigcatdiary said: It was JBJ just not in 2007, more likely 2006 when he scored 10 in a Panthers win at Wimborne Road. The carb was too big because they used an outdated tool to measure it. And I didnt mean the machine examiner. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigcatdiary 3,165 Posted October 27, 2020 10 hours ago, NeilWatson said: This is my source, but I don’t have more details to hand. The incident was on August 15th 2005, the star match report mentions it following Panthers 46-44 win at Poole on the night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gringo 142 Posted October 27, 2020 2 hours ago, moxey63 said: I recall Barry Briggs writing in the 70s that there was a growth in riders taking drugs. Society has seen the use of drugs mushroom since then. Magic. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nw42 2,048 Posted October 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, Gringo said: Magic. What, him too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenga 2,998 Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Tsunami said: I was a very decent dart player in my twenties. I was not a drinker, but for my dart matches I used to have about a pint and a half before and during my matches and became a very good. Difficulty was if my opponent was late or my team match didn't start on time, I ran our of confidence and not at my best. i played snooker in a local league for our club . i had a mate who alway wanted to go on last so he could have a few beers . i asked him why he wanted to be last on . his reply was that the beer helped him with his nerves and he became a more confident player . it calmed him dow and did not have any shakes with nerves and played like a pro . i think i might try it when i am driving . it works for others ! ! ! Edited October 27, 2020 by jenga 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve roberts 9,246 Posted October 27, 2020 50 minutes ago, jenga said: i played snooker in a local league for our club . i had a mate who alway wanted to go on last so he could have a few beers . i asked him why he wanted to be last on . his reply was that the beer helped him with his nerves and he became a more confident player . it calmed him dow and did not have any shakes with nerves and played like a pro . i think i might try it when i am driving . it works for others ! ! ! Didn't Bill Werbenuik have the same condition if I recall? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites