uk_martin 1,606 Posted March 5, 2021 On 3/2/2021 at 7:02 PM, mikebv said: To be announced during the budget tomorrow.. Will Speedway be included in this one? I'm assuming that the tax payers money isn't just going to be thrown around like confetti, and that to get any money off the Government, the sports governing bodies will have to present Full Business Cases for how much they want, why they deserve it, and what they will do with it, that will be to the greater good of the sport that the communities that benefit from the sport. Included in that will be an Equalities Impact Assessment (the Public Sector loves those) to ensure that everyone from as diverse a cross section of the community will benefit... SO... let's play a game... let''s pretend that it's YOUR job to write that Full Business Case to support a claim for financial assistance for speedway. How would it read? AND when you've had a go at doing it for yourself, ask yourself who at the BSPZzzz you would trust to present a Full Business Case on behalf of the whole sport without trousering 40% of the money awarded, like Terry Russell did, the last time some collective financial deal was struck (Sky TV, anyone?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,634 Posted March 6, 2021 Surely - a bit like the Govt PPE contracts - it'll be a case of who you know not what you know!!? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_martin 1,606 Posted March 6, 2021 8 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Surely - a bit like the Govt PPE contracts - it'll be a case of who you know not what you know!!? OK, so who has speedway got in high (or even better, in low) places that can help? Seriously though, there will be a department within the ministry, staffed by civil servants, none of whom will probably have the first clue as to what speedway is, and if you their job will be to sift through the applications, bin the ones that don't tick the boxes and advance those that do...so how many politically correct boxes do you think that an application made by the BSPZzzz is going to tick? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 6, 2021 Surely they must have a chance given that last years British Final was singled out as a test event? At the very least it shows that the BSPL have lines of communication to the decision makers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,263 Posted March 7, 2021 Didn't Speedway have some link to several MP's a few years ago? Are they still there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted March 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, mikebv said: Didn't Speedway have some link to several MP's a few years ago? Are they still there? NO, stopped after the last GE in December 2019 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted March 7, 2021 On 3/5/2021 at 6:52 PM, uk_martin said: I'm assuming that the tax payers money isn't just going to be thrown around like confetti, and that to get any money off the Government, the sports governing bodies will have to present Full Business Cases for how much they want, why they deserve it, and what they will do with it, that will be to the greater good of the sport that the communities that benefit from the sport. Included in that will be an Equalities Impact Assessment (the Public Sector loves those) to ensure that everyone from as diverse a cross section of the community will benefit... SO... let's play a game... let''s pretend that it's YOUR job to write that Full Business Case to support a claim for financial assistance for speedway. How would it read? AND when you've had a go at doing it for yourself, ask yourself who at the BSPZzzz you would trust to present a Full Business Case on behalf of the whole sport without trousering 40% of the money awarded, like Terry Russell did, the last time some collective financial deal was struck (Sky TV, anyone?) LET'S not forget that without Terry Russell there would have been no Sky deal and quite rightly he had a percentage of it but not the figure you quote. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SSL84 541 Posted March 7, 2021 1 hour ago, PHILIPRISING said: LET'S not forget that without Terry Russell there would have been no Sky deal and quite rightly he had a percentage of it but not the figure you quote. Think it was 25% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,263 Posted March 7, 2021 I am sure a good many had tried to get "Speedway on the telly", and failed, before Russell managed it... A 'finders'' or 'brokers' fee would be a usual thing to then get paid... There was still a "hell of a lot of money" 'that went to the clubs over a good many years... A shame that money didn't get used well to further enhance the sport in the UK.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted March 7, 2021 3 hours ago, mikebv said: I am sure a good many had tried to get "Speedway on the telly", and failed, before Russell managed it... A 'finders'' or 'brokers' fee would be a usual thing to then get paid... There was still a "hell of a lot of money" 'that went to the clubs over a good many years... A shame that money didn't get used well to further enhance the sport in the UK.. VERY true ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SSL84 541 Posted March 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said: VERY true ... The bspa as it was should have bought Coventry stadium when it was up for sale with some of the money from sky. Had it as a Midland national stadium for all top meetings and also had all the offices there . And used for training and bringing on British riders. As it can be used 7 days a week? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gambo 1,338 Posted March 7, 2021 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Trackerman48 said: The bspa as it was should have bought Coventry stadium when it was up for sale with some of the money from sky. Had it as a Midland national stadium for all top meetings and also had all the offices there . And used for training and bringing on British riders. As it can be used 7 days a week? That was proposed by one of the promoters at the time, who put forward a working business case for the purchase but no action was taken. Edited March 7, 2021 by Gambo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SSL84 541 Posted March 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Gambo said: That was proposed by one of the promoters at the time, who put forward a working business case for the purchase but no action was taken. Yes I know gambo just think if it had of been taken up where it would be now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old bob at herne bay 828 Posted March 7, 2021 Come along now folks .... you must be in fantasy land if you think that BSPL is interested in any other club except their own. They are just a loose group of individuals who run a local speedway track. Their collective decisions in the past few years have contributed to clubs closing down, and I dont recall any attempts to support assist new members to the "club" of BSPL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_martin 1,606 Posted March 7, 2021 10 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: LET'S not forget that without Terry Russell there would have been no Sky deal and quite rightly he had a percentage of it but not the figure you quote. Only in speedway can such a blatant conflict of interest be heralded as some kind of heroism. And you wonder why the sport has gone down the pan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
