GiveusaB 1,133 Posted July 2, 2021 Sorry to repeat....but, if England win tomorrow night, please delay the comeback meeting for another week as England will be playing their semi-final on Wednesday and it will have a massive impact on attendance..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiveusaB 1,133 Posted July 2, 2021 Noticed that Erik Riss is out with a shoulder injury? does anyone know the extent of his injury? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartinBSN 617 Posted July 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, GiveusaB said: Noticed that Erik Riss is out with a shoulder injury? does anyone know the extent of his injury? Dislocated shoulder according to reports 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_martin 1,606 Posted July 2, 2021 13 hours ago, bruno said: Just read the Birmingham article in speedway star about fans over 60 not being computer minded,... Maybe they are more computer savvy than they are given credit for...and also savvy enough as not to trust a third party ticketing web site with a shoddy attitude towards online privacy and probably data protection? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeilWatson 1,988 Posted July 2, 2021 1 hour ago, uk_martin said: Maybe they are more computer savvy than they are given credit for...and also savvy enough as not to trust a third party ticketing web site with a shoddy attitude towards online privacy and probably data protection? I don’t expect the site is guilty of either of those things. I think it’s clear that you don’t wish to use the site, which is your decision, but your negative scaremongering isn’t helpful. All Clubs are relying heavily (if not exclusively) on on-line bookings for another few weeks - we should be encouraging people to book. Have you raised your concerns with the Birmingham promotion or the booking company - or simply posted repeatedly on here? I’m sure the Club would be happy to set your mind at rest given the opportunity. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petecc 352 Posted July 2, 2021 27 minutes ago, NeilWatson said: I don’t expect the site is guilty of either of those things. I think it’s clear that you don’t wish to use the site, which is your decision, but your negative scaremongering isn’t helpful. All Clubs are relying heavily (if not exclusively) on on-line bookings for another few weeks - we should be encouraging people to book. Have you raised your concerns with the Birmingham promotion or the booking company - or simply posted repeatedly on here? I’m sure the Club would be happy to set your mind at rest given the opportunity. Leave him alone. He's quite happy sticking the boot in. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_martin 1,606 Posted July 3, 2021 On 7/2/2021 at 12:08 PM, NeilWatson said: I don’t expect the site is guilty of either of those things... If I book a table, then that's between me and the club. Nobody else needs to know. Contrary to that, and completely outwith the the courtesy of confidentiality, and the good practises of privacy protection, that website has no rights to publish peoples names on thee internet. Simple as. Especially as they don't even ask anyone's permission to use their name on their web site. And if they are as cavalier about people's privacy, they are probably equally cavalier about data protection, so god knows what protects people's credit card information from being accessed by those who aren't entitled to it.  It's not scaremongering, it's common sense. I don't want any budding burglar to know that my place will be empty for a set number of hours, and they can help themselves without worrying about me returning. And I don't want someone hacking my credit card information from that web site's database either. Fill your boots if you are happy with that lackadaisical attitude towards your personal security, but it ain't for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,633 Posted July 3, 2021 On 7/2/2021 at 12:08 PM, NeilWatson said: I don’t expect the site is guilty of either of those things. I think it’s clear that you don’t wish to use the site, which is your decision, but your negative scaremongering isn’t helpful. All Clubs are relying heavily (if not exclusively) on on-line bookings for another few weeks - we should be encouraging people to book. Have you raised your concerns with the Birmingham promotion or the booking company - or simply posted repeatedly on here? I’m sure the Club would be happy to set your mind at rest given the opportunity. Neil, I'm not sure you understand exactly why ukmartin is so outraged. The booking site publishes the names and exact locations of every customer in the inside seating area. It looks like a clear breach of data protection to me. For example let us imagine I am stalking you and knew you would likely buy a ticket in the restaurant. I could buy the ticket for the seat next to you thanks to the helpfully displayed seating plan. That said I still bought a ticket, but it is not a good system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeilWatson 1,988 Posted July 3, 2021 55 minutes ago, uk_martin said: If I book a table, then that's between me and the club. Nobody else needs to know. Contrary to that, and completely outwith the the courtesy of confidentiality, and the good practises of privacy protection, that website has no rights to publish peoples names on thee internet. Simple as. Especially as they don't even ask anyone's permission to use their name on their web site. And if they are as cavalier about people's privacy, they are probably equally cavalier about data protection, so god knows what protects people's credit card information from being accessed by those who aren't entitled to it.  It's not scaremongering, it's common sense. I don't want any budding burglar to know that my place will be empty for a set number of hours, and they can help themselves without worrying about me returning. And I don't want someone hacking my credit card information from that web site's database either. Fill your boots if you are happy with that lackadaisical attitude towards your personal security, but it ain't for me.  Just now, arnieg said: Neil, I'm not sure you understand exactly why ukmartin is so outraged. The booking site publishes the names and exact locations of every customer in the inside seating area. It looks like a clear breach of data protection to me. For example let us imagine I am stalking you and knew you would likely buy a ticket in the restaurant. I could buy the ticket for the seat next to you thanks to the helpfully displayed seating plan. That said I still bought a ticket, but it is not a good system. I understand his complaint, and I don’t profess to have a detailed understanding of data protection and credit card security. However if the only issue is that his name appears on a seating plan I don’t see the problem. If he arrived at the track and was greeted as ‘Mr Smith’ (I can’t use his correct name as he posts here under a pseudonym) would that cause outrage? If there was a written seating plan in the restaurant with ‘Mr Smith’ appearing on it would he tear it down in disgust? I repeat my earlier questions, has he contacted the booking company or the Club to discuss the issue - or is it just an opportunity to pursue an old vendetta? Frankly I think it’s a great idea publishing names, as if I was attending Birmingham he’s the last person I would want to sit next to :-) 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speedway fan 205 Posted July 3, 2021 32 minutes ago, arnieg said: Neil, I'm not sure you understand exactly why ukmartin is so outraged. The booking site publishes the names and exact locations of every customer in the inside seating area. It looks like a clear breach of data protection to me. For example let us imagine I am stalking you and knew you would likely buy a ticket in the restaurant. I could buy the ticket for the seat next to you thanks to the helpfully displayed seating plan. That said I still bought a ticket, but it is not a good system. it does NOT publish the name and exact location of every customer in the inside seating area . A few tables are reserved and the occupants have some family and friends who join them and it is NOT full details . It is NOT a breach of data protection . Nearly everyone who uses the system says it is a good and easy to use system ....but I suppose not everyone can be happy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeilWatson 1,988 Posted July 3, 2021 Let’s hope that from 19th July all the restrictions are removed and everyone can go back to paying at the turnstiles - problem solved. I’ll look out for ‘uk_martin’ in shades and camouflage trying not to be seen :-) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speedway fan 205 Posted July 3, 2021 Just to clarify there are a few tables where it is for Mr "Smith" and party ..... no full names, dates of birth, addresses, phone numbers , bank details , card details ..... how many Mr "Smith's"  are there etc ????  As the person complaining will never use the system it doesn't affect him and when things return to being able to pay at the gate will he be standing in the queue to anonymously put his cash down and watch his local side??? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,262 Posted July 3, 2021 I once used one of those tourist info things in London that had several buttons under a map of all the tourist areas... You basically pressed a button with a description eg Buckingham Palace, and its location lit up on the map so you could then plot your way to the destination ... The spooky thing was on the map was an arrow pointing to a place on the map with the words "You are here"... How did they know?. I wouldn't use one again.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noaksey 345 Posted July 3, 2021 England v Denmark on Wednesday then Nobody in their right mind would run against that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zlata prilba 320 Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, noaksey said: England v Denmark on Wednesday then Nobody in their right mind would run against that Probably just as well the weather forecast is naff from Tues onwards Edited July 4, 2021 by zlata prilba Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
