GP rounds 3 and 4 Wroclaw Fri/Sat 30th/31st July live on BT Sport

[krompa 236]

Any idea who was higher Lambo or Vaculik? And Lindgren or Madsen?

According to TV pics Lambo and Madsen. But official SGP site the other way round. Confused now.

[iainb 4,962]

5 minutes ago, krompa said:

Any idea who was higher Lambo or Vaculik? And Lindgren or Madsen?

According to TV pics Lambo and Madsen. But official SGP site the other way round. Confused now.

We'll have to wait until racers & royals logs in, he's the only one that truly knows what's going on 

Edited July 30, 2021 by iainb

[emilali 500]

8 minutes ago, iainb said:

 

Sarcasm alert: He's not been the same since breaking his neck... can't think why...

Cool story bro. Laughed out loud at your sarcasm. You are correct by the way. However, given he is in the series and commentators continue to shower him in adoration that in itself carries an expectation so I thought I’d just comment solely on what I seen in front of me. Would be a bit weird if every time he has a sub standard meeting we just said ‘Tai isn’t a patch on the rider he was before he broke his neck’. 

[krompa 236]

8 minutes ago, iainb said:

We'll have to wait until racers & royals logs in, he's the only one that truly knows what's going on 

Yeah, so true. R&R will find rules for sure. There might be something in the rules about riders not finishing semis due to exclusions. But not sure about it.

[racers and royals 8,717]

13 minutes ago, iainb said:

We'll have to wait until racers & royals logs in, he's the only one that truly knows what's going on 

In a restaurant in Swansea !! But  Vaculik beat Lambert and Lindgren beat Madsen

[iainb 4,962]

3 minutes ago, krompa said:

Yeah, so true. R&R will find rules for sure. There might be something in the rules about riders not finishing semis due to exclusions. But not sure about it.

I would have thought there was still gate position choice still to race for and the one or both of the remaining 2 riders could have blown their engines or got injured. I thought that was the whole point of not awarding races. 

[krompa 236]

1 minute ago, racers and royals said:

In a restaurant in Swansea !! But  Vaculik beat Lambert and Lindgren beat Madsen

Thanks and enjoy restaurant!

[iainb 4,962]

2 minutes ago, racers and royals said:

In a restaurant in Swansea !! But  Vaculik beat Lambert and Lindgren beat Madsen

Now that's what I call ridiculous!

[nw42 2,048]

3 minutes ago, iainb said:

Now that's what I call ridiculous!

Well he is between courses.

[NeilWatson 1,988]

6 minutes ago, krompa said:

Yeah, so true. R&R will find rules for sure. There might be something in the rules about riders not finishing semis due to exclusions. But not sure about it.

There certainly is:

The 2 Riders who finish 3rd in each of the Semi Finals will be 5th and 6th in the Final Meeting Classification, with the higher ranked rider from Intermediate Classification 5th and the lower ranked rider 6th. This rule will apply if both riders complete, or fail to complete the Semi Final. If only one of these riders fail to complete the Semi Final for any reason, he will be placed 6th in the final meeting classification.
The 2 Riders who finish 4th in each of the Semi Finals will be 7th and 8th in the Final Meeting Classification, with the higher ranked rider from Intermediate Classification 7th and the lower ranked rider 8th. This rule will apply if both riders complete, or fail to complete the Semi Final. If only one of these riders fail to complete the Semi Final for any reason, he will be placed 8th in the final meeting classification.

As Lambert was excluded first he is deemed to finish 4th, Madsen 3rd in the first semi-final.

[iainb 4,962]

3 minutes ago, nw42 said:

Well he is between courses.

Sneaked off to the gents with his laptop 

[Rob B 1,245]

Referee had 3 decisions to make and got all 3 wrong.

Woffinden one was ridiculous, dropped it miles after any contact, so much room to stay on.

Madsen, there was contact but it was minimal and there was a delay till Emil realised he should drop it.  

The final, look at the line Janowski took, he was so tight going down the straight he was riding over gate 2! He was never going to have the correct angle to turn it in time with another rider alongside him and ploughed into Emil. Crazy decision to exclude Emil.

[iainb 4,962]

6 minutes ago, NeilWatson said:

There certainly is:

The 2 Riders who finish 3rd in each of the Semi Finals will be 5th and 6th in the Final Meeting Classification, with the higher ranked rider from Intermediate Classification 5th and the lower ranked rider 6th. This rule will apply if both riders complete, or fail to complete the Semi Final. If only one of these riders fail to complete the Semi Final for any reason, he will be placed 6th in the final meeting classification.
The 2 Riders who finish 4th in each of the Semi Finals will be 7th and 8th in the Final Meeting Classification, with the higher ranked rider from Intermediate Classification 7th and the lower ranked rider 8th. This rule will apply if both riders complete, or fail to complete the Semi Final. If only one of these riders fail to complete the Semi Final for any reason, he will be placed 8th in the final meeting classification.

As Lambert was excluded first he is deemed to finish 4th, Madsen 3rd in the first semi-final.

But what about the remaining 2 that didn't complete the 4 laps?

[NeilWatson 1,988]

5 minutes ago, iainb said:

But what about the remaining 2 that didn't complete the 4 laps?

Awarding a race comes under FIM rules rather than GP rules.

70.10.17 Finish of a heat
The finish of a heat shall occur in the case of any of the following circumstances.
a) when the front part of the front wheel of the motorcycle (whilst attached to the machine) passes over the finishing line after completing the appropriate number of laps provided the Competitor is in contact with his motorcycle.
b) when the Referee has awarded the heat as provided for in these regulations.
c) If the Referee has cause to stop a heat after the leading Rider has passed the start/finish line to commence the last lap, the Referee has the sole discretion to award the heat based upon the positions of the competitors at the time the heat was caused to be stopped.
The disqualified Rider will be awarded no points and any competitors behind the disqualified Riders being advanced one place.
d) Where racing incidents etc. have reduced the riders available to take part in the re run of any heat to a single competitor, the Referee may award the appropriate number of points to the remaining competitor without the need for a further rerun.

[iainb 4,962]

Is that new for this season?