iris123 20,979 Posted October 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Lefty said: Yep. Sadly the Headline would be "Engine tuner takes the World Title and a bloke whose country can't be named held onto the handlebars !" And some bloke who is nowadays more famous for coffee had his music played at the end Chai Kovsky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lefty 1,266 Posted October 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, iris123 said: And some bloke who is nowadays more famous for coffee had his music played at the end Chai Kovsky Is that the guy who wrote the '12 minutes past 6pm Overture'? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robinh88 571 Posted October 3, 2021 Nice to see a new champion! I am sure Zmarzlik’s time will come again very soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted October 3, 2021 3 hours ago, iris123 said: What surprised me yesterday, seeing as the title was on the line in the last GP and a Pole was in the running, was quite a few empty seats. Now I only watch sporadically, so it might be normal or was it down to some restriction ? Didn't seem like it though as the empty seats were also sporadic, rather than planned by the look of it No restrictions, a sell-out meeting. Thought myself it was funny to see so much empty seats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,979 Posted October 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, f-s-p said: No restrictions, a sell-out meeting. Thought myself it was funny to see so much empty seats. Thanks Did wonder as one of my Russian friends posted a couple of videos of Russian fans packed into a bus celebrating. Nobody wearing masks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neila 1,157 Posted October 3, 2021 Maybe a lot people had previously bought tickets but unable to travel for one Reason or another 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OveFundinFan 4,141 Posted October 3, 2021 4 hours ago, iris123 said: Or Igor Plechanov. But now Russia have their Champion Does not change the fact that Igor is still one of the best, if not the best, not to be crowned world champion. If only he could have ridden in Britain, Boris Samarodov as well would have benefitted. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,011 Posted October 3, 2021 5 hours ago, iris123 said: What surprised me yesterday, seeing as the title was on the line in the last GP and a Pole was in the running, was quite a few empty seats. Now I only watch sporadically, so it might be normal or was it down to some restriction ? Didn't seem like it though as the empty seats were also sporadic, rather than planned by the look of it Was thinking the same, a far cry from over 100,000 at Katowice... and speedway in Poland had supposed to be booming Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
customhouseregular 1,651 Posted October 3, 2021 6 hours ago, iainb said: I was always of the opinion the Leigh Adams and/or Emil were the best riders to never be world champion but when you look at the stats Andreas Jonsson and Jarek Hampel have a pretty good claim to this unwanted title too. With Magic and Fred catching them up quickly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Speedway_Grand_Prix_statistics Emil... 2 x WU21 champion, 2x European champion, 3x SON winner, 3x WC medals, 22 GP finals, 7 GPwins... how much more is needed to class him as a great rider?. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,979 Posted October 3, 2021 2 hours ago, OveFundinFan said: Does not change the fact that Igor is still one of the best, if not the best, not to be crowned world champion. If only he could have ridden in Britain, Boris Samarodov as well would have benefitted. I wasn't even implying it did. My answer was Plechanov, full stop....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,011 Posted October 3, 2021 1 hour ago, customhouseregular said: Emil... 2 x WU21 champion, 2x European champion, 3x SON winner, 3x WC medals, 22 GP finals, 7 GPwins... how much more is needed to class him as a great rider?. I don't think anybody is disputing that he's a great rider... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
False dawn 2,298 Posted October 3, 2021 Having been there in 1973 when Ivan lay in the dirt as Jerzy Szczakiel completed 4 laps to become the World Champion, I'm tempted to say that it ain't the stats that live on, it's the name on the trophy. It shouldn't be so, but that's the way it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robinh88 571 Posted October 3, 2021 2 hours ago, customhouseregular said: Emil... 2 x WU21 champion, 2x European champion, 3x SON winner, 3x WC medals, 22 GP finals, 7 GPwins... how much more is needed to class him as a great rider?. More consistent domestic performances and a world title. Emil couldn’t lace Leigh Adams boots presently, just ask Leszno fans. Still time for Emil but I think Bartosz and Artem are in a different dimension. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keepturningleft 589 Posted October 3, 2021 Artem reminds me of a modern day Ivan Mauger. Fairly conventional, mainly smooth and unspectacular riding style and a mega gater. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
customhouseregular 1,651 Posted October 3, 2021 2 hours ago, iainb said: I don't think anybody is disputing that he's a great rider... It seems some are, but all are entitled to their own opinions He is as good as Artem and Bartosz, but not consistently as good. That’s why I find him so frustrating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
