racers and royals 8,723 Posted December 17, 2021 49 minutes ago, phillipsr said: Everyone could ride Lynn, Belle Vue, Peterborough, Sheffield and Ipswich!! Only Wolves would hold any thing different and they wouldn't even come close to losing a match at home Completely agree with you- some people just haven’t a clue !! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyPresley 102 Posted December 17, 2021 58 minutes ago, phillipsr said: Everyone could ride Lynn, Belle Vue, Peterborough, Sheffield and Ipswich!! Only Wolves would hold any thing different and they wouldn't even come close to losing a match at home Belle Vue, Peterborough and Sheffield yes. Lynn possibly, but Ipswich no, along with Wolves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BartoszZmarzlikFan 491 Posted December 18, 2021 On 12/17/2021 at 11:26 AM, racers and royals said: Completely agree with you- some people just haven’t a clue !! Like you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BartoszZmarzlikFan 491 Posted December 18, 2021 On 12/17/2021 at 11:35 AM, AndyPresley said: Belle Vue, Peterborough and Sheffield yes. Lynn possibly, but Ipswich no, along with Wolves. Not even those three. Us Brits have seen how riders like Kasprzak & Walasek perform in our country. Woeful is an understatement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,723 Posted December 18, 2021 58 minutes ago, BassoontheGasso said: Not even those three. Us Brits have seen how riders like Kasprzak & Walasek perform in our country. Woeful is an understatement. When the top flight was a decent standard- take out one or two and it’s mediocre to say the least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BartoszZmarzlikFan 491 Posted December 18, 2021 1 hour ago, racers and royals said: When the top flight was a decent standard- take out one or two and it’s mediocre to say the least. The top flight is still a decent standard now. Mostly filled with current and former GP riders or riders who've represent their country at World level. We're better than the Swedish league that's unbalanced with half of the clubs financially broke. Flaky Poles get exposed when they're asked to use actual skills in our Country, It's easy to ride Polish tracks like Leszno for example that's all about set up rather than skill. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,723 Posted December 18, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, BassoontheGasso said: The top flight is still a decent standard now. Mostly filled with current and former GP riders or riders who've represent their country at World level. We're better than the Swedish league that's unbalanced with half of the clubs financially broke. Flaky Poles get exposed when they're asked to use actual skills in our Country, It's easy to ride Polish tracks like Leszno for example that's all about set up rather than skill. You need to stop living in cloud cuckoo land and come back to earth only 2 Swedish clubs - out of nine are non- competitive namely Vetlanda and Piraterna. Premier league teams over here wouldn’t live with E Winner clubs let alone Extraleague !!! Edited December 18, 2021 by racers and royals 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BartoszZmarzlikFan 491 Posted December 18, 2021 1 hour ago, racers and royals said: You need to stop living in cloud cuckoo land and come back to earth only 2 Swedish clubs - out of nine are non- competitive namely Vetlanda and Piraterna. Premier league teams over here wouldn’t live with E Winner clubs let alone Extraleague !!! You keep telling yourself that. Great Britain Vs Poland (Glasgow) 20/10/2021 | Speedway Updates (proboards.com) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stewmac 471 Posted December 18, 2021 39 minutes ago, BassoontheGasso said: You keep telling yourself that. Great Britain Vs Poland (Glasgow) 20/10/2021 | Speedway Updates (proboards.com) Whatever you've been smoking, maybe pass it around. Are you seriously saying this one result backs up your claims? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BartoszZmarzlikFan 491 Posted December 18, 2021 Just now, stewmac said: Whatever you've been smoking, maybe pass it around. Are you seriously saying this one result backs up your claims? R & R - Premier league teams over here wouldn’t live with E Winner clubs let alone Extraleague !!! I provide the evidence that even a weakened team of Brits containing a couple of rising stars can even beat a top Polish team containing some of the best senior and junior riders Poland has got to offer. This isn't an opinion because I'm providing facts that aren't debatable. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Najjer 2,889 Posted December 18, 2021 8 hours ago, BassoontheGasso said: The top flight is still a decent standard now. Mostly filled with current and former GP riders or riders who've represent their country at World level. We're better than the Swedish league that's unbalanced with half of the clubs financially broke. Flaky Poles get exposed when they're asked to use actual skills in our Country, It's easy to ride Polish tracks like Leszno for example that's all about set up rather than skill. You posted some decent stuff throughout this Polish season and we had some shared advice on the betting fronts - but you’re way off the mark and chatting nonsense here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BartoszZmarzlikFan 491 Posted December 19, 2021 29 minutes ago, Najjer said: You posted some decent stuff throughout this Polish season and we had some shared advice on the betting fronts - but you’re way off the mark and chatting nonsense here Not nonsense at all, British Speedway just gets looked down on due to the people who run it. Swedish league isn't balanced and it's way more unprofessional than Britain, They don't keep fans up to date with line-ups until 5 minutes before the start when the original line-up has changed and Swedish bosses put out weakened teams to get smacked just to save money. Flaky Poles do get exposed in Britain, We've had loads of them and they end up getting sacked within a couple of months. Any motorcyclist could ride a track like Leszno as it's a throttle jockey track that's all about the set up and it doesn't require much skill to get around the place. Yet if you put them on a Foxhall or Monmore track that requires throttle control and is more demanding / testing on a riders skill then they'll end up getting found out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BartoszZmarzlikFan 491 Posted December 19, 2021 (edited) If our league is so crap and Poland is so great then why couldn't a team consisting of Poland's best junior and senior riders beat our severely weakened GB side at Glasgow. We didn't have Woffinden or the King of Ashfield in the side yet they still beat a quality Polish side containing Zmarzlik, Janowski, Kubera, Musielak, Miskowiak & Lampart Yet the BSF are so cocksure a crappy Grudziadz side for example could beat Premiership teams in Britain. Edited December 19, 2021 by BassoontheGasso Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,723 Posted December 19, 2021 6 hours ago, BassoontheGasso said: If our league is so crap and Poland is so great then why couldn't a team consisting of Poland's best junior and senior riders beat our severely weakened GB side at Glasgow. We didn't have Woffinden or the King of Ashfield in the side yet they still beat a quality Polish side containing Zmarzlik, Janowski, Kubera, Musielak, Miskowiak & Lampart Yet the BSF are so cocksure a crappy Grudziadz side for example could beat Premiership teams in Britain. As the Premiership is so great, could you tell me which team`s our SON 3 senior riders are riding for in the UK in 2022 ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,637 Posted December 19, 2021 Re Polish Lge 1 and the Prem: Looking at the averages of the two riders who competed in both leagues (Kurtz and Becker) I would suggest that the two leagues are of a similar standard and I wouldn't like to express a definitive view as to which is stronger without further analysis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
