Baldyman 6,243 Posted September 15, 2021 5 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: To be fair, the team building included Klindt (an Ipswich track specialist) at 1 until he dropped out on the eve of the season. We lost numerous meetings by only a handful of points, especially at home, when Crump or a guest scored only a few points. That makes all the difference in the world. Of course we’ll never fully know 100%, but if we’d had Klindt at 1 as originally planned, we’d almost certainly have far more points on the board than we currently have. I also accept the point about Panthers doing brilliantly without a recognised number 1. But it’s pretty much a rare occurrence that this happens. Look at all the league winners over the years, and 99% of them have had good solid number 1’s. Klindt wasn't number 1,Crump was,, as average was higher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon1983 557 Posted September 15, 2021 27 minutes ago, Baldyman said: Klindt wasn't number 1,Crump was,, as average was higher And if King is signed Klindt wont be no.1 if signed for 2022 haha unless king gets a reduction My only gripe on the Louis interview is he doesnt know the team building rules, pretty sure most promotions know roughly what's going on but then they wont let fans know til last If Klindt is in hope Mads Hansen King probably a shoe in Maybe an Ellis/Allen combo could fit depending on the regs, or Crump with Covatti? 1. Ellis 2. Allen 3. Klindt 4. Hansen 5. King Or 1. King 2. Covatti 3. Crump 4. Hansen 5. Klindt Probably end up with 1. Doyle 2. Heeps 3. Crump 4. Allen 5. King Obviously pure speculations coz we dont know Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arch Stanton 2,245 Posted September 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Baldyman said: Klindt wasn't number 1,Crump was,, as average was higher For some reason I had it in my mind that Klindt was replaced late on by Crump but he was replaced by Jake Allen so that emphasises my point even more! Klindt was the number 1 in that team in terms of stature and point scoring potential regardless what number he’d have started with. Klindt is like sh!t off a shovel at Foxhall that’s why a lot of us wanted him in the side. Those narrow home defeats would have been home victories with him in the side no doubt in my mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arch Stanton 2,245 Posted September 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Falcon1983 said: And if King is signed Klindt wont be no.1 if signed for 2022 haha unless king gets a reduction My only gripe on the Louis interview is he doesnt know the team building rules, pretty sure most promotions know roughly what's going on but then they wont let fans know til last If Klindt is in hope Mads Hansen King probably a shoe in Maybe an Ellis/Allen combo could fit depending on the regs, or Crump with Covatti? 1. Ellis 2. Allen 3. Klindt 4. Hansen 5. King Or 1. King 2. Covatti 3. Crump 4. Hansen 5. Klindt Probably end up with 1. Doyle 2. Heeps 3. Crump 4. Allen 5. King Obviously pure speculations coz we dont know Doyle an interesting shout. Always been loyal to British Speedway in the past, wonder if he could be tempted back to UK? More complicated these days though with Polish restrictions and travelling complications amongst other things so probably doubtful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon1983 557 Posted September 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: Doyle an interesting shout. Always been loyal to British Speedway in the past, wonder if he could be tempted back to UK? More complicated these days though with Polish restrictions and travelling complications amongst other things so probably doubtful. Well he only took on Sweden due to Swindon closing, so he was willing to give up Sweden for the UK, whether that is the case now.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,022 Posted September 16, 2021 28 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said: Well he only took on Sweden due to Swindon closing, so he was willing to give up Sweden for the UK, whether that is the case now.... Correction, he was willing to give up Sweden for Swindon. Pretty sure at the time he said he would only ride for them, no one else in the UK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyman 6,243 Posted September 16, 2021 Well some of the riders need to come back next year,, with hopefully at least one more team moving up,, and Rory Bjarne and poss Jason retiring there may be a shortage of suitable riders. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GWC 495 Posted September 16, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Baldyman said: Well some of the riders need to come back next year,, with hopefully at least one more team moving up,, and Rory Bjarne and poss Jason retiring there may be a shortage of suitable riders. Well they might but can clubs afford them now. UK speedway in a perilous place now and would throwing £000’s at Doyle put numbers on the gate to pay for him. With riders retiring I would expect a consolidation of the leagues otherwise it’s a farce. Edited September 16, 2021 by GWC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,633 Posted September 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, GWC said: Well they might but can clubs afford them now. UK speedway in a perilous place now and would throwing £000’s at Doyle put numbers on the gate to pay for him. With riders retiring I would expect a consolidation of the leagues otherwise it’s a farce. So with riders retiring and going to one league, presumably still restrictions from Poland, where are the riders going to come from? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyman 6,243 Posted September 16, 2021 34 minutes ago, GWC said: Well they might but can clubs afford them now. UK speedway in a perilous place now and would throwing £000’s at Doyle put numbers on the gate to pay for him. With riders retiring I would expect a consolidation of the leagues otherwise it’s a farce. There are also plenty of not so good foreign that may need to come back,, 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BartoszZmarzlikFan 491 Posted September 16, 2021 11 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: For some reason I had it in my mind that Klindt was replaced late on by Crump but he was replaced by Jake Allen so that emphasises my point even more! Klindt was the number 1 in that team in terms of stature and point scoring potential regardless what number he’d have started with. Klindt is like sh!t off a shovel at Foxhall that’s why a lot of us wanted him in the side. Those narrow home defeats would have been home victories with him in the side no doubt in my mind. Doubt it considering the form Klindt has been in this year tbh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BartoszZmarzlikFan 491 Posted September 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Baldyman said: There are also plenty of not so good foreign that may need to come back,, Matej Zagar will come back next season now that he's going to ride in the second tier of Polish Speedway by the sound of it. Krzysztof Buczkowski may return if he doesn't get snapped up by Grudziadz. Kenneth Bjerre another one without a team place in the Ekstraliga so far. Chris Holder needs British racing more than anyone imo. Michael Jepsen Jensen, NKI & Klindt could return as well imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GWC 495 Posted September 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Skidder1 said: So with riders retiring and going to one league, presumably still restrictions from Poland, where are the riders going to come from? Who knows which tracks will open next year but if we do attract back overseas riders then the Premier will have to remain intact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon1983 557 Posted September 16, 2021 There are enough riders either currently available or those that may come back to run an 8 side premiership with two rising stars at reserve. Glasgow for example could run a top 5 of Cook, Nicol, Rasmus Jensen, Musielak, Sam Jensen plus 2 x Rising Stars, that team would be competitive Poole could come back up with Ellis, Basso, S. Worrall, Covatti, Kurtz, Hume & Shanes again quite competitive Doyle would be affordable to Witches the offer made to Crump was quite a lucrative one! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUPERACE 440 Posted September 16, 2021 59 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said: There are enough riders either currently available or those that may come back to run an 8 side premiership with two rising stars at reserve. Glasgow for example could run a top 5 of Cook, Nicol, Rasmus Jensen, Musielak, Sam Jensen plus 2 x Rising Stars, that team would be competitive Poole could come back up with Ellis, Basso, S. Worrall, Covatti, Kurtz, Hume & Shanes again quite competitive Doyle would be affordable to Witches the offer made to Crump was quite a lucrative one! 5 of those riders already ride for premiership teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites